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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
    Because this fight has the potential to be big. If a fight is worth 100 million and the B side fighter knows he can beat the A side fighter is he going to fight for 5 million? I am in no way saying that this fight is worth 100 mill btw.

    Jacobs isn't taking chump change while GGG cashes out, he's sticking to his guns. This is also a business, it isn't just about titles for them. It is easy as **** for you to sit there and tell Jacobs to take bum level money when it doesn't affect your family or financial standing in any way.

    Jacobs should get paid more than Lemieux bottom line. This is a bigger fight whether Abel Sanchez wants to accept it or not.
    what business is that exactly? the business of wasting money? why is jacobs a bigger fight than lemieux when he can't sell out the barclays center in his own backyard and his tv numbers sucks? GGG sold out MSG on his own vs lemieux. this is not a big fight at all, a very good one yes. this fight can't generate the kind of money to pay jacobs what he is asking for.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
      75-25 are the WBA rules. If Jacobs vacates because of that, he's a coward.

      Canelo-Golovkin PPV can generate like 100 million dollars. It's the biggest fight to be made. The media hype before the fight will be bigger than Canelo-Cotto, and similar to Canelo-Mayweather. Everyone will wanna watch that fight. 10 millions is nothing compared to what it would generate. Fighters don't accept flat fees in PPV fights.
      I know that 75-25 is from them... I still think its retarted and imo team ggg should negotiate to ensure the fight. Of course if jacobs wants more than 45% give him the middle finger etc.


      as for the rest of your post those are nice opinions.... but that's what they are... opinions and opinions are not facts.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        cuz he had no problem fighting 168 chavez jr & froch
        Ward has not fought at 168 since a Golovkin fight has been discussed. There's no way to tell if he could even make the weight again. Everything suggests that he couldn't make the weight. That said, Gennady would have been a fool to move up for a Ward fight for peanuts because as good as Ward is, he wouldn't attract a good crowd anywhere but in Oakland. There was no way he would have not taken the lions share and he didn't deserve it based on boxing economics.

        That was just a risk/reward move for Gennady.

        You go up to fight guys that can provide big purses like Chavez Jr. and Froch. You don't go up and fight a guy as dangerous as Ward for a small purse.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
          What are his guns? vacating?
          Do not know what sticking to your guns means? Jacobs has not vacated.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
            Do not know what sticking to your guns means? Jacobs has not vacated.
            Will haymon try to win the purse bid?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
              what business is that exactly? the business of wasting money? why is jacobs a bigger fight than lemieux when he can't sell out the barclays center in his own backyard and his tv numbers sucks? GGG sold out MSG on his own vs lemieux. this is not a big fight at all, a very good one yes. this fight can't generate the kind of money to pay jacobs what he is asking for.
              Look at the forum. The Lemieux fight was not nearly this big. Look at boxing media, the Lemieux fight was not nearly this talked about. Before the fight is even scheduled this is already GGG's biggest fight. Certainly his most talked about one.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                Lemieux brought a belt for Ggg to unify. Danny is a mando, and already passed on more than Lemieux got:

                ‘Wait a second. I could fight two Peter Quillins and make the same thing.’
                He can fight all the bums he wants for belts still doesn't mean this isn't his biggest fight.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                  Will haymon try to win the purse bid?
                  I have no clue, I'm not Haymon and I'm not up his ass 24/7.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
                    He can fight all the bums he wants for belts still doesn't mean this isn't his biggest fight.
                    What kind of response is this? Do you support Jacobs passing on 2 Quillins? You think he's worth more than that?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                      Well yes and no, firstly there had been movement between the orgs to try to work towards unifications in the last year or two, or at least that is what was claimed. Secondly of course Golovkin targeted Rubio as WBC mando and 'earned' the shot that way.

                      And no, not a lie - misleading perhaps but he didn't say he'd accept any offer sent by anyone regardless of circumstances or other plans he might have, he didn't say he'd fight regardless of how good or bad the deal was, nor in fact did he ever actually say he would ever even leave 160 - merely - and these were the original terms used - that he was 'open to offers from anyone from 154 to 168'. Yeah, I agree that it was just a means of hyping him and a load of duplicitous BS, but there was no actual lie there.

                      Actually it was a really rather pointless statement since all fighters are generally 'open to offers' from fighters in the surrounding weightclasses, but yeah, the fans ran with it, so I guess his detractors have the right to rub it in their faces.
                      It is not normal for a champion to become mandatory for another alphabet organizations belt. If that was the case why were Mayweather and Pacquiao never each other's mandatories? Why was Garcia or Thurman not able to Dan or Bizier's? I'll tell you why, because it's unprecedented. We be crooks make up their laws as it suits ($) them. Please stop with the double talk before you leave yourself tongue tied. At the time that the Ward fight was proposed it was bigger fight financially than any proposed middle weight fight for Golovkin. Anybody from 54-68,means anybody, end of story.

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