Comments Thread For: Marquez Shakes Head at Golovkin: 25% For Jacobs is Ridiculous!

[Citizen Koba]

I'm pretty sure K2 didn't have the WBA to firmly say that the champion receives a favorable 75 to 25 split only to offer more than 25%....

I've no idea what they're offering now, neither do you. I guess I'm coming from the perspective that I believe K2 do actually want this fight made but are reasonably trying to avoid paying Jacobs more that they think he is worth. There are some who would contend this of course and say that K2 actually don't want this fight to happen.

No, what I'm arguing is that if K2 never had any intention of paying Jacobs more than 25% why the weeks of negotiation? Why not just go straight to purse. And if K2 were adamant on 25% from the start why did team Jacobs wait so long to request the adjustment from the WBA? The scenario I've outlined of offer, counter offer and impasse is simply the one that makes most sense to me and is more in line with how I'd expect a negotiation to proceed - again given the caveat that GGGs team actually do want this fight to happen.

Not quite sure why such a scenario would even be contentious except that it attaches blame to neither side which may not satisfy some of the more partisan posters on here, many of whom, I'm convinced, visit for the sole purpose of arguing with each other.

[frantic fighter]

I've no idea what they're offering now, neither do you. I guess I'm coming from the perspective that I believe K2 do actually want this fight made but are reasonably trying to avoid paying Jacobs more that they think he is worth. There are some who would contend this of course and say that K2 actually don't want this fight to happen.

No, what I'm arguing is that if K2 never had any intention of paying Jacobs more than 25% why the weeks of negotiation? Why not just go straight to purse. And if K2 where adamant on 25% from the start why did team Jacobs wait so long to request the adjustment from the WBA? The scenario I've outlined of offer, counter offer and impasse is simply the one that makes most sense to me and is more in line with you'd expect a negotiation to take proceed - again given the caveat that GGGs team actually do want this fight to happen.

So, Why the adjustment at all? Is this a veiled threat designed to dissuade team Jacobs from allowing this to go to a purse bid? If so, that seems to be a bit of a heavy handed strategy. I'm pretty sure HBO has exclusivity rights over Golovkin's fights per their contracted agreement. I also know a lot of industry insiders are claiming that Haymon has squandered the PBC'S entire equity,but you're still taking the risk of Golovkin having to vacate his title due to politics should this fight go to a purse bid. So, IMO team Jacobs would be foolish to accept anything under 35%.

[HURTFEELINGS]

So when GBP does the same thing to them...dont wanna hear no sh*** when GBP decides to go fight someone else, like lemuix, he was good enough to fight g in a ppv match, now when canelo fights the same guy as g did in ppv match and his numbers do waaaay better than g's, or hell, just dont fight him then. g is pricing himself out, GBP should pull that offer off the table, that g hasnt signed...because he believes GBP is gonna do to him what he does to others

[Lester Tutor]

Made a thread about this yesterday....

So many different posters... hmmm

Oh Marquez you pimp you!

[i'm a fun haver]

25% is the purse split as per the WBA.
This isn't a unification. Danny Jacobs isn't a champion. He has the WBA regular belt.
All that means is he is 1st in line for an ass whipping.
He brings nothing to the table other than being a black American fighter.
GGG does better numbers than Jacobs in NYC or anywhere else
GGG vs Brook daytime broadcast had higher ratings than Jacobs vs Quillin.
If Jacobs doesn't like it, then go to the UK, beat Saunders and come back with a bigger bargaining chip. That would actually involve fighting instead of just talking about it.
K2 isn't in the business of getting Danny Jacobs a payday. Go out and earn it, settle for what you can get, or **** off.

[Citizen Koba]

So, Why the adjustment at all? Is this a veiled threat designed to dissuade team Jacobs from allowing this to go to a purse bid? If so, that seems to be a bit of a heavy handed strategy. I'm pretty sure HBO has exclusivity rights over Golovkin's fights per their contracted agreement. I also know a lot of industry insiders are claiming that Haymon has squandered the PBC'S entire equity,but you're still taking the risk of Golovkin having to vacate his title due to politics should this fight go to a purse bid. So, IMO team Jacobs would be foolish to accept anything under 35%.

Hardly a veiled threat. Like you say, fairly heavy handed, but if the teams couldn't agree - and I suspect the impasse may have been simply over the difference between 30% and 35%, K2 had the big stick of the mando split to fall back on. It's a negotiation, you try to reach terms but at the end of the day you use what you have to get the best deal for your guy.

As to whether Golovkin could fight off HBO that's a pertinent question which may soon be answered. If he can't then yes, K2 are taking a significant gamble in trying to press Jacobs cos there is the chance that Haymon could bid high, but they may feel that the terms of the mando split are likely to dissuade Al from sinking too much into a fight which will cost a lot but net little reward for PBC in the event of the expected outcome (that's not a call btw, but Jacobs will be a significant underdog).

IMO Jacobs deserves 30 or 35%, but would walking away at 25% be in his best interests? I'm not so sure, after all what else is there at MW for him?

[i'm a fun haver]

cali 37 you are misinformed.Marquez is out in left field. Team GGG is negotiating the purse split bid right now as we speak. No one knows what is going on in those negotiations, especially not Marquez.

These dumb street animals and swagf@gs in here don't care about facts or logic.

[Edward90]

I have never seen a team have so many problems with so many fighters' teams in securing a fight. I'm not assigning blame or whatever to this situation, but there comes a point in time where you get over GGG weak resume. Make concessions and fight someone relevant or people (and that may just be me) will stop paying attention.

[bigjavi973]

Ha! And some ggg quacks tried to trash my thread.

JMM prety much said the same thing I said

[Outwest Exp 355]

25% is the purse split as per the WBA.
This isn't a unification. Danny Jacobs isn't a champion. He has the WBA regular belt.
All that means is he is 1st in line for an ass whipping.
He brings nothing to the table other than being a black American fighter.
GGG does better numbers than Jacobs in NYC or anywhere else
GGG vs Brook daytime broadcast had higher ratings than Jacobs vs Quillin.
If Jacobs doesn't like it, then go to the UK, beat Saunders and come back with a bigger bargaining chip. That would actually involve fighting instead of just talking about it.
K2 isn't in the business of getting Danny Jacobs a payday. Go out and earn it, settle for what you can get, or **** off.

Jacobs brings plenty to the table. He's a good dude with a good story that hasn't been exploited to the masses yet. With the beating cancer angle and everything. If K2 and HBO can't sell that story to the public then they need to get out of the boxing business. And GGG needs this fight because I garuntee you Oscar and Canelo will go after Jacobs if GGG's drops the ball.