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  • #81
    Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
    So you realize theres a difference between correlation and proof right? I'm going to assume were on the same page here. I don't think there is undoubtable proof linking Pbc to the series h fund, but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence(linking to the start of Pbc), and a direct correlation with the insane devaluation of series h(looks like according to the last quarter down to 30m **just to note there are apparently other funds that have contributed so I believe there's more money), and Pbc falling off the map. I think we can all agree the last two or so months for Pbc have been quite different than this time last year.

    I mean you can at least see the company is strapped for cash at this point, right?

    I'm just going to add if haymon wants this to succeed. I'm not saying its completely over.... It looks like it won't, but maybe he can turn it around. He needs to stop having a financial responsibility to these fighters. The gesture is undoubtably nice and heart warming, but it's doomed to fail. You can play promoter and manager at the same time youre losing either way. You either give your fighter a great deal and lose as a promoter, or give him a horrible deal and lose as a manager. Hes a world class negotiator, maybe he should just stick to that.
    So what is the correlation again?

    Can you cite where it specifically states what are in those series'?

    Do you know what was in those series' prior to 2015? Are they still there?

    I know you don't have proof but your guesswork should be intelligent. I'll wait.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Kigali View Post
      Why are these peasant minded fools always crying about wealthy people's money?????
      [ ] understands a mutual fund

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      • #83
        if pbc fighters agree to fight for 5 dollars then the pbc can be saved

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        • #84
          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          So what is the correlation again?

          Can you cite where it specifically states what are in those series'?

          Do you know what was in those series' prior to 2015? Are they still there?

          I know you don't have proof but your guesswork should be intelligent. I'll wait.
          I think Pbc was talked about as early as oct 2013. Maybe oct 2014, but I think it was 2013. If I have time this weekend ill dig through and post some more info.

          But at least answer this question. Do you agree that Pbc is a company that is clearly strapped for cash?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
            I think Pbc was talked about as early as oct 2013. Maybe oct 2014, but I think it was 2013. If I have time this weekend ill dig through and post some more info.

            But at least answer this question. Do you agree that Pbc is a company that is clearly strapped for cash?
            I asked you three questions, you were unable to answer one. Let me know when you have time "this weekend" to answer them. THEN, when you can do that, you'll be able to judge for yourself whether or not any of the nonsense you wrote jives with your theory of them being strapped for cash and THEN you can ask others.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
              Here's Q4(Their fiscal year ends march 31st) shows Series H at a market value of 60,093,000 down from an initial value of ~428m.

              https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...htm#tx154518_4

              pg.15

              EDIT: Let me just add I would understand your skepticism if there wasn't a direct correlation with this to the lack of shows PBC has put on, drop in purses, drop in production value,etc....
              PBC was never valued at $428 Mil.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                PBC was never valued at $428 Mil.
                The total value of the security.... Apparently the total value of the investment was 928 mill. I just focused on series h tho.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  I asked you three questions, you were unable to answer one. Let me know when you have time "this weekend" to answer them. THEN, when you can do that, you'll be able to judge for yourself whether or not any of the nonsense you wrote jives with your theory of them being strapped for cash and THEN you can ask others.
                  If you cannot see Pbc is clearly strapped for cash then your clearly not going to be reasonable about this topic, so why waste my time? Not shocking considering you were a staunch advocate of mayweathers 40m offer on a 600m fight. Not surprising in the least. I really have to go...

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
                    If you cannot see Pbc is clearly strapped for cash then your clearly not going to be reasonable about this topic, so why waste my time? Not shocking considering you were a staunch advocate of mayweathers 40m offer on a 600m fight. Not surprising in the least. I really have to go...
                    Then get the ****outtahere with this passive ****. You got called out on your crap, have no answer and now wanna plead on some, "Cant you see???" Nah, I can't with that BS you're spewing. Stop pretending people can't read Q's and K's and you can just come up here with any ole BS and pretend to make some "direct correlation." Save that for the dummies like el-blanco and ****.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by mapleleaf27 View Post
                      As fans why would anyone on here be cheering for the demise of PBC? I don't understand the hatred people have for one or another, I don't really care what channel the fights are on just put them on. A lot of times I have found the shows featuring prospects seem to be the most entertaining then anything else...Shobox, and the Toe to Toe on FS1.
                      Yep. This.

                      More and more often this PBC conversation is turning into some weird ass PBC vs HBO thing kinda like how for years damn near every conversation turned into a Floyd vs Manny thing. Boxing is such a niche sport I feel like more people should be supporting or at least rooting for as many people and companies to succeed in boxing as possible. I'm a Floyd, Manny, PBC and HBO fan for such reasons.

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