Comments Thread For: Premier Boxing Champions is Far From Over, Says Promoter

[Kigali]

It's possible PBC is a multi billion dollar project with long-term objectives. Who knows? Seems crazy throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars with no ending game in mind. We'll soon see how it will go next year. Thurman vs Garcia would be a fairly big fight next year. Lara vs Andrade would be a possibility; Spence vs Brook, Peterson vs Porter, etc. There's Peralta the cab driver who is a new addition to PBC's stable.

Why are these peasant minded fools always crying about wealthy people's money?????

[TexasCowBoy]

Got to give the haymon groupies props for their loyalty. Even the hitler groupies tried to run like b^tches when the red army arrived.

Haymon has the biggest stable in boxing by far, and had 400mil at his disposal and still managed to fail. Them pbc fanboys say hbo is no better.

HBO put forward crawford/postol, kovalev/ward, gonzalez/cuadras, and loma/walters all in the same year. #1 vs #2 at 140, the fight for #1p4p and 175 supremacy, current #1p4p vs #2 at 115(could have been vs #1 at 115 but inoue be scared), loma/walters arent considered the best at 130 but thats because they have barely fought there. However i wouldnt bet against loma or walters if they fought anyone else at 130.

Thats 4 great matches in 2016. But hey, pbc has garcia vs vargas and most in their roster barely fought in 2016. PBC be free doe! If i wanted free stuff i would move to venezuela. Apparently free stuff has a cost. But that isnt even a real issue in this case. If you cant afford it you can always stream, or keep out of nsb for a couple of hours until it gets uploaded somewhere. No reason to complain about great hbo matches, but plenty to protest pbc mismatches.

PBC is dead, and for any true boxing fan that is cause for celebration. Up until the early 2000's boxing was good enough. Although leonard carved the path to what would happen by what he did to hagler, you couldnt hate him too much because he fought everyone, was past prime, and had issues with his retina. Sure bowe was disgusting in his ducking of lewis, but you couldnt blame it that much to boxing. Bowe was just trash that didnt even deserve to live. When you have a guy that kidnaps his wife and kids, and stabs his wife in the chest during that process, vacating a belt is the least of your problems.

After the mid 2000's scum like haymon started taking over and the ducking era began spawning things like: floyd jr, berto, broner, andre dirrell, quillin, danny jacobs, pederson, the pimp, khan, and many more. Not only did he directly create duckers, he overpayed them in the proccess, and convinced boxers that fighting bums for big bucks was the way to go. Now that this charade is over all the divas he created will have to either participate in a competitive sport, as it always should have been, or go back to flipping burgers because if you chose boxing it was probably because you didnt have much of a brain to begin with.

Mismatch hour is over and pbc is dead. You dont burn through 400mil and have your boxers competing once a year because you're business is being profitable. PBC was just a cash grab aimed to make a quick buck out of dumb billionares. Real boxing fans are happy and i cant wait until the official "PBC declares bankrupcy" thread gets stickied. I will personally contribute with some memes. I feel slightly sorry for the pathetic "boxing fans" that will miss bouts like garcia vs salka.

I got Salido vs Frank Vargas as The Fight Of The Year....of course granted that the year is not over....Great Post by the way and that explaining the SEC...hahaha that was hilarious....I personally had Hagler defeating Leonard...

[Aggroblakh]

I got Salido vs Frank Vargas as The Fight Of The Year....of course granted that the year is not over....Great Post by the way and that explaining the SEC...hahaha that was hilarious....I personally had Hagler defeating Leonard...

I personally liked Thurman-Porter as FOTY... your choice ain't bad though

[elgu]

The post spoke about how boxing didnt have a "duck everyone" policy until the early 2000's. It also mentioned that although leonard/hagler and bowe dumping the title had occured these were mainly isolated incidents that didint become the norm until the 2000's. UNTIL THE 2000's. Meaning leonard/hagler and bowe/vacating occured BEFORE the 2000's.

I know its hard for all you *****/haymon supporters to keep up with what is written in posts but you should really step it up. I know its hard considering most of you can't read and you're all hudled up in the house of the one ***** that actually reached middle school and can read some.

However its not much to ask that in this day and age you actually learn to read. The ***** that writes these responses should at least look up the word "before". Its the 3rd word written in all caps in this post.

LOL!! NSB censors f-l.o-m.o-s! I wonder why? You can make fun of everyone in america except the 4 untouchables.

[IMDAZED]

Just in case you're laughing about my post I'm curious what part of it is laughably wrong? Waddell and reed is a publicly traded company therefore the earnings are public. The information is available.... Maybe confused about the SEC part? I'm not referring to the SEC conference but the Securities and exchange commision.

Great. Which Q did you read and what did you find out as it relates to PBC?

[Flash13]

Great. Which Q did you read and what did you find out as it relates to PBC?

Here's Q4(Their fiscal year ends march 31st) shows Series H at a market value of 60,093,000 down from an initial value of ~428m.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...htm#tx154518_4

pg.15

EDIT: Let me just add I would understand your skepticism if there wasn't a direct correlation with this to the lack of shows PBC has put on, drop in purses, drop in production value,etc....

[IMDAZED]

Here's Q4(Their fiscal year ends march 31st) shows Series H at a market value of 60,093,000 down from an initial value of ~428m.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...htm#tx154518_4

pg.15

EDIT: Let me just add I would understand your skepticism if there wasn't a direct correlation with this to the lack of shows PBC has put on, drop in purses, drop in production value,etc....

Lol you think I was born yesterday? Where is the direct correlation?

[Flash13]

Lol you think I was born yesterday? Where is the direct correlation?

I'm confused which correlation are you talking about specifically? The one between the security and Pbc?

[IMDAZED]

I'm confused which correlation are you talking about specifically? The one between the security and Pbc?

Actually, Im asking you which correlation YOU'RE talking about (see: your post from this morning). Explain this correlation.

[Flash13]

Actually, Im asking you which correlation YOU'RE talking about (see: your post from this morning). Explain this correlation.

So you realize theres a difference between correlation and proof right? I'm going to assume were on the same page here. I don't think there is undoubtable proof linking Pbc to the series h fund, but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence(linking to the start of Pbc), and a direct correlation with the insane devaluation of series h(looks like according to the last quarter down to 30m **just to note there are apparently other funds that have contributed so I believe there's more money), and Pbc falling off the map. I think we can all agree the last two or so months for Pbc have been quite different than this time last year.

I mean you can at least see the company is strapped for cash at this point, right?

I'm just going to add if haymon wants this to succeed. I'm not saying its completely over.... It looks like it won't, but maybe he can turn it around. He needs to stop having a financial responsibility to these fighters. The gesture is undoubtably nice and heart warming, but it's doomed to fail. You cant*** play promoter and manager at the same time youre losing either way. You either give your fighter a great deal and lose as a promoter, or give him a horrible deal and lose as a manager. Hes a world class negotiator, maybe he should just stick to that.