Name a 160 fighter in history that could beat GGG?

[robertzimmerman]

I can prove wrong every single argument here, but you only proved to be a fanboy, don't worry boy, there's only 4 boxers to talk about in nsb so you have plenty of room where to troll.

I honestly hope he's trolling, even if it's not funny.

If not, I honestly pity him.


He'd be absolutely ****ed without boxrec.

He wouldn't be able to post.


Look at what he's done with Nunn.

He's never even seen him fight.

Not once.

But he's been on boxrec and seen that he lost to the likes of Steve Little.


He's a ****ing idiot who doesn't know anything about the great MW's of the past.


He's absolutely clueless.

[robertzimmerman]

160LB Bernard takes him to school. Hearns could probably KO him tbh

I'm sorry mate, but this would not be possible. Because Bernard lost to Jermain Taylor, whereas GG is currently unbeaten.

That's the logic of the know-nothing poster - Headshots.

I wish you the best of luck debating with NSB's biggest imbecile.

[just the facts]

Im struggling to think of one who i would pick against him with any confidence. Hagler would be pretty much 50/50 i think, but only way i could clearly see him losing is against a bigger man at a higher weight.
The guy has left a trail of destruction in the middleweight division that hasnt been seen before, greatness is happening in front of our eyes, fighters are running for cover to avoid fighting him, and all you guys can do is ***** and moan!!! Its pathetic!!!!
And if you are going to say someone can beat him, please provide a good explanation rather than just talking crap, looking for intelligent boxing discussion...

Another ball gagging post from g strings "head" cheerleader. I realize even mentioning g stings name makes your knees weak, but to say g string (with ZERO quality wins) would beat every MW in history is dumb even for you. Now wipe your chin and go apologize to g string for the teeth marks.

[robertzimmerman]

Hearns got knocked into orbit by Iran Barkley(bum). beaten 2X. check his record at MW.


lol @ hearns glass jaw standing up to GGG.

Bernard is too low volume. loses a UD.

There's boxrec again for you.

You are the biggest joke on this forum.


"GG would have beaten Roy at MW, on the grounds that he lost to LHW's later on in his career"


Oh my.


So there's no way Tommy could have beaten GG at MW?

No way?

Even though he had an 8" reach advantage as well as other great attributes?


Out of all of your posts, you have never once given an actual, objective breakdown.

Your whole premise is:

"He couldn't have beaten GG, because he lost to....."


Tragic.

[Madison Boxing]

Clueless.

Bernard is 6'1, with a 75" reach.

He was a very good MW.

Although GG would definitely have had a shot at beating him, it wouldn't have been easy.

This is where you let yourself down the most.

You are fast becoming one of the worst posters on NSB.

i thought you rated me as a poster on here?

[robertzimmerman]

The amount of logic and sense in this post is TOO DAM HIGH!!

Cheers.

Unfortunately, it'll be lost on the know-nothing stat man.

[just the facts]

i thought you rated me as a poster on here?

as ball gagging cheerleaders go, you rate right near the top

[robertzimmerman]

He doesn't have any problems with high volume!!

He lost 8-4 or 7-5 against a prime Jones - for the same reason he lost the majority of fights apart from Kovalev. He lost to superior speed.

Taylor overwhelmed him with volume? No - stop trying to make up your own history, you have EXPOSED yourself as a little fan boy troll. He beat him with a double jab, reach and footwork, I don't remember what Taylor threw in those fights, and I don't care enough to look it up, but I know that it wouldn't have been more than 40 punches a round, in fact probably less than that.

When he fought Calzaghe he was beaten by a combination of things namely, again speed, and yes also by volume, although this was a very close fight which could have gone either way (I had Calzaghe). It wasn't just volume though, that is disrespectful to Calzaghe, he brings a lot of things to the ring, he is extremely versatile, and its his skill set and attributes coupled with volume that gave Hopkins issues. Calzaghe can take your offensive game away from you as well, and can be roughhouse, so there was a lot of different things at play in that fight.

Now in terms of GGG - a prime Hopkins would make him his *****. He has too much of everything, he is too complete for a fighter like GGG. He is too defensively sound, he is faster, he punches seriously hard at 160, he has a size advantage, reach advantage, he is a better boxer on the outside, better on the inside, smarter. GGG can punch harder, that is literally his only advantage.

He wouldn't allow GGG to just throw volume at him - plus GGG is too hittable himself and its not like he would be able to just stand their and leave his chin out to dry - Hopkins has sharp power, Calzaghe put pressure on him and tired him out, but he also made Hopkins miss, GGG is not nearly that elusive. Not to mention Calzaghe is a larger man, naturally a very big 168lber, and even he was wobbled by Hopkins when he was hit clean, and Calzaghe had a proven chin.

GGG is smaller and mark my words will have problems pushing back bigger fighters. I'm sorry he would get eaten alive by Hopkins - he get nullified and probably taken out.

I'm not sure why I even gave you the dignity of such a comprehensive reply, you are nothing but a troll and terrible poster. I don't wish to get into any kind of debate with such a person.

An absolutely fantastic response.

It was a pleasure to read.

Headshots is ****ing hopeless.

He doesn't take into account that: 'styles make fights'

He doesn't take into account reach advantages etc.

He can only debate using stats.

He's never even seen Nunn fight at MW. Yet he's convinced himself that GG would have beaten him, due to him losing to Steve Littles at SMW.

He's never seen Eubank before. But he's convinced himself that GG would have beaten him because he lost to Collins at SMW.

He thinks GG would have beaten Roy at MW, because he lost to Glen Johnson at LHW.

Ha!

He's a pathetic joke.

[robertzimmerman]

do you realize you're giving nothing but emotional tantrums?

just LOL


135er Duran only became great off the weak links at higher weights he picked off.

same as Lamotta beating Ray Robinson. Is Lamotta a great middleweight? stylistically no. crude, limited, pillow fisted.


this is the same case here. Duran beat nothing but bums above WW. The fact he had a close fight with Hagler is why Hagler is limited not why Duran is great. Same with Ray Leonard beating Hagler.

Hagler is only hyped up as a monster but in reality he was a weak MW champ that let some WW's make a name off of him.

you are a female though, so you get caught up in hype.

If Kell Brook had beaten GGG, a delusion of greatness would be created too. but no GGG shows you how it's done against WW's.


you want a breakdown of how GGG vs Duran would go at MW? Duran would get bombed out. Ray Leonard would get walked into corners and bombed out too. Hagler's footwork is limited. he's a plodding follower. GGG's offensive footwork is far superior .. let's not forget the power. his power is superior to Hagler's too.

They're not tantrums, it's frustration at your complete ignorance.

I'm a GG fan myself.

Now it's more than possible that he could have beaten every guy that's been mentioned on this thread. But it's also more than possible that some of those guys would have beaten him. But instead of looking objectively, you use boxrec stats.

GG could have knocked Nunn out. It was possible. But don't claim that Nunn couldn't have beaten GG, because Littles knocked him out at SMW.

Don't say that Eubank couldn't have beaten him at MW, because he lost to Collins at SMW when he was faded.

Don't say GG would definitely have beaten Roy at MW, because Glen Johnson beat him 10 years later at LHW.

It's a joke.

You have got zero credibility, because instead of looking at the clash of styles, you're only focusing on the defeats of each fighter.


Yes, Marvin had a tough fight with Duran. But Duran wasn't just some average fighter who weighed 135. He was a MW and one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Every knowledgeable fan knows about triangle theories.

If you think GG would beat Marvin, that's cool. But don't say he'd definitely have beaten him because he struggled with Duran.

Duran beat Leonard.

Hearns iced Duran.

Marvin iced Hearns.

Yet Ray beat Marvin.

The same applies to Frazier, Foreman and Ali.


Yes, La Motta was extremely tough and he didn't possess great skills.

And?

It was a clash of styles after Ray had fought over 100 times.

Marcos Maidana is crude with limited ability. Yet he almost beat Floyd in their first fight.

This is why boxing's so intriguing.


How was Marvin a weak champion? On the grounds of having close fights with 2 of the best fighters who've ever lived?


I don't think Ray or Duran would have been bombed out at MW.

And I don't think GG has much more power than Marvin.

He's not icing people like Gerald and Julian did.

He's very powerful, but he's not crushing people.

He hasn't got one punch knockout power.

[Madison Boxing]

They're not tantrums, it's frustration at your complete ignorance.

I'm a GG fan myself.

Now it's more than possible that he could have beaten every guy that's been mentioned on this thread. But it's also more than possible that some of those guys would have beaten him. But instead of looking objectively, you use boxrec stats.

GG could have knocked Nunn out. It was possible. But don't claim that Nunn couldn't have beaten GG, because Littles knocked him out at SMW.

Don't say that Eubank couldn't have beaten him at MW, because he lost to Collins at SMW when he was faded.

Don't say GG would definitely have beaten Roy at MW, because Glen Johnson beat him 10 years later at LHW.

It's a joke.

You have got zero credibility, because instead of looking at the clash of styles, you're only focusing on the defeats of each fighter.


Yes, Marvin had a tough fight with Duran. But Duran wasn't just some average fighter who weighed 135. He was a MW and one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Every knowledgeable fan knows about triangle theories.

If you think GG would beat Marvin, that's cool. But don't say he'd definitely have beaten him because he struggled with Duran.

Duran beat Leonard.

Hearns iced Duran.

Marvin iced Hearns.

Yet Ray beat Marvin.

The same applies to Frazier, Foreman and Ali.


Yes, La Motta was extremely tough and he didn't possess great skills.

And?

It was a clash of styles after Ray had fought over 100 times.

Marcos Maidana is crude with limited ability. Yet he almost beat Floyd in their first fight.

This is why boxing's so intriguing.


How was Marvin a weak champion? On the grounds of having close fights with 2 of the best fighters who've ever lived?


I don't think Ray or Duran would have been bombed out at MW.

And I don't think GG has much more power than Marvin.

He's not icing people like Gerald and Julian did.

He's very powerful, but he's not crushing people.

He hasn't got one punch knockout power.

youre talking complete and utter **** mate