Jones Jr. Tells Abel, in his prime NOW he would destroy anybody in his roster!!

[M Bison]

This is utterly ridiculous

Golovkin (who's best win is a vey average Lemieux or a welterweight) would go through Roy's resume easy? Golovkin fans have become the single most delusional in boxing. Golovkin would not go through Hopkins or Toney, he is taylor-made for both. That 'over-rated' James Toney was 44-0 before running into Jones.

Jones beat Bernard Hopkins with one hand btw, he had a broken right hand before the fight started.

Timing beats speed if you have better timing, Golovkin's timing is not even close to Jones', Kell Brook was making Golovkin hit air and rocking his head like a speed-ball and Golovkin had to resort to brawling. Toney was a FAR better boxer than Golovkin, and significantly faster, and he couldn't lay a glove on Jones, Golovkin would look like nothing more than a plod forward slugger. You talk about resume, yet Golovkin has been seen to have very good power against bums, but he also landed plenty of power punches against a WW last time out and couldn't drop him.

Honestly, it's as if some people haven't even bothered to watch a prime Jones.

James Toney is tailor made for someone like GGG he would easily nail him all night long with body and head combos the guys defense is massively overrated tbh the only thing massive about Toney is how protected he was in his career the guy literally got beat from pillar to post by a bum Dave Tiberi but let me guess Tiberi is suddenly an ATG HOFer usually the type of agenda the nostalgiatards have.

You say "prime" Toney but when was that really you fans of the past make ****** bogus claims he was prime when for an odd one or two fights when he fought nobodies?
Hmmm... when...

GGG was doing what he wanted with Kell he toyed with the little man If he wanted to dominate your boy Kell he could have done it but why do that over 12 rounds when you know your crooked judges were looking to rob him he took him to war and ****'d him up good and proper with ease
Landing air shots.... ummmmmmm okay
That is why he had the higher percentage of punches landed and landed more punches and threw more punches in nearly every single round.

Like I said you lot got some serious hate you need to release your bogus agenda is quite funny, Roy Jones Jr with his glass jaw would just walk through everyone.... smfh.

"They say I fight nobody but that's a lie I just make them look like nobody"
It works both ways, I know it pains you to see a modern great but you gotta pull your head out your ass Roy isn't invincible nor am I saying GGG is but you're being outright ******.

[M Bison]

[robertzimmerman]

Why do people keep saying this?



GGG was letting it happen, are you guys seriously that ignorant that you think fighters don't fight differently depending on their opponent?



wow.

He wasn't letting it happen, he just want fazed by it because he had no respect for Kell's power.

[robertzimmerman]

Jones literally only fought 2/3 meaningful fights at 160 he never fought anyone nearly as good as Golovkin
James Toney was overrated he held a fake undefeated label when Jones fought him he was beat several times before hand
Bernard Hopkins a good fight but even then Jones still had a fairly competitive fight with him and that was when Hopkins wasn't in his prime

To be brutally honest Roy Jones Jr resume at MW is absolute trash it only becomes good when he moves to 168-175 but people will conveniently use some lame excuse oh he ummm got weak because he went to heavyweight lmao....
He barely weighed what a heavyweight should have.

You seem very biased.

Roy doesn't have a great MW resume. But it's due to circumstances. Everyone's circumstances are different. Roy was held back by his father, and his career only began to take off after they split in 1992 and Roy signed with HBO. By the time he'd beaten Bernard in 1993, he wanted big money fights because he was 24-25. So he moved up for Toney. But although he hasn't got a great MW resume, the attributes that he possessed were clear to see. Go and look at the matured MW version of him who took out Thomas Tate in 1994, which was about 6 months before he fought Toney. In my honest opinion, there's no way GG would have beaten that version of Roy. And I say that as a big fan of GG's.

Regarding Toney, everyone has off nights. Go and look at his schedule back in his early 20's. Tiberi beat him and there's no excuses. Even Toney admits he lost. But saying that GG would win because of that is silly. Go and watch the McCallum fights and the Nunn fight etc. Tiberi obviously wasn't in their league.

Regarding lame excuses with Roy, what are you talking about? Roy went to HW at 34, after 50 fights, across, 5 weight classes. He then had to burn muscle to drop back to fight Tarver at almost 35. Every fighter ages differently. Roy got caught by a beautiful shot from Tarver, but he was clearly a different fighter than what we'd seen previously.

[robertzimmerman]

In a weight class where Roy Jones Jr fought at in his prime he was only 33yo is that past your best?


The nostalgiatards really are reaching

He was 35 when Tarver knocked him out, again, after 50 fights, and after coming back down from HW.

[Sun_Tzu]

No body beats Roy at MW. Its not even close, he would make Golovkin look like a fool. When I say nobody I mean nobody. Nobody beats him at 168 (including Ward) either and very damn few give him a fight at 175.

[robertzimmerman]

James Toney is a fat bum who was gifted so many wins in his career GGG would KO his pie belly.

Behave.

Nobody has ever knocked out James.

[robertzimmerman]

Tarver would have a walk in the park vs ggg

Based on what?

What do you mean by that statement?

Are you literally talking about the version who beat Roy?

Tarver is a 6'2 southpaw with a 75" reach.

The version who fought Roy was rangy with good skills and speed. He also weighed 180 plus pounds.

I'm a big fan of GG's, but we haven't even seen him at SMW yet.

[robertzimmerman]

The prime Roy Jones Jr never had his chin checked because the guys he was facing weren't good enough to hit him and absolutely NOBODY he fought had the power that Golovkin hence why I said GGG hasn't fought anyone like Roy Jones Jr and Jones Jr hasn't faced anyone like GGG.

You look at speed WAY too much ask any trainer they will tell you timing beats speed you can't use your speed much when you're being timed or pushed up against the ropes hence why superior footwork can negate a lot of the good things Roy can do, Roy would need to fight on the backfoot luckily for GGG that is not the way you beat him.

TBF If we're talking about 160 resume only Roy Jones Jr record at that division is very scarce he hasn't fought many people good, GGG would go through Roy's entire record easily obviously I doubt GGG has the size to make 175lbs but you shape them down to a size he can fight at he'd have zero problem beating them and there is no way in gods green hell would he get owned by Tarver.

Timing can negate speed. But we're talking about incredible speed here. I don't see how GG would have been able to have beaten Roy. Roy was a huge MW. He had a 4/5" reach advantage and he was heavier. As well as being much faster, he had more variation, he had an incredible unorthodox defence which meant he was extremely hard to hit clean, and like GG, he also possessed one punch knockout power in either hand. GG is very easy to hit and he can mark up easy. Roy would have found him at will. It's okay saying that GG didn't respect Kell's power, (which was true) but look at how easily Kell found him. Imagine that had been the Tate version of Roy at the O2. I don't see how anybody could have favoured GG. Despite his weak resume at MW, Roy was clearly on another level.

What do you mean GG wouldn't get owned by Tarver? You have to take so many things into consideration. First off, Tarver was a very good fighter. He had ability. Second of all, could he have knocked out Roy in his prime?

I love GG. But there's no telling what would happen if he moved up 2 weight classes and then came back down in quick succession.

It's pointless trying to do direct comparisons.

It's so easy to type that GG would never lose to a guy like Tarver. We just don't know at this stage.

[Scary]

Roy takes GGG out. Abel stops the fight in the 10th.