roy's china wouldnt even last 4 against GGG.
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Originally posted by Red Cyclone View PostDuh, ofcourse he could knock him out he fought him when he was in his prime when he fought him you don't suddenly become out of your prime just because someone found your weak ass chin cut the B.S.
I like Roy Jones Jr too but he clearly had the frame and the height to move up weight classes with ease that and he started his pro-career at a completely different time to what GGG did the comparison like you said its pointless.
It goes two ways GGG chin is better, Roy has the better speed but he doesn't have the better footwork he would get the ring cut off and he'd find himself in a place that Tarver and Glen Johnson put him... on his back out cold.
No, Roy obviously wasn't in his prime when he'd come back down from HW at 35, after 50 fights. That was not the guy who'd beaten Toney and Hill etc. He'd slowed down a little.
I agree with you that GG doesn't have the frame that Roy had. That's true. He's small compared to Roy. He has a 70" reach, and I think he maxes out at SMW. I can't imagine him fighting at LHW and above. So that needs to be taken into account.
I don't like what's happened here, because you've got hardcore fans of GG who'll defend him at any cost and criticise Roy, and you've got some people who absolutely despise GG and Abel who'll do the exact opposite.
I can understand why Roy has said what he did, because he moved up himself, and he wants to see the best fight the best. But he's also got to appreciate that everyone's circumstances are different. Again, like you've noted, GG isn't as big, and there's still things for him to accomplish at MW first. So that needs to be respected. But all of this could have been avoided if Abel had acted differently. It was silly what he said about Roy, completely unecessary. But he wanted to protect his fighter, so I can understand the response. But all he had to do was to issue the following statement:
"We respect Roy's opinion, but we have things we want to accomplish at MW before we'll consider moving up"
That's what he should have said, and if he had've done, all this would have been avoided. But now both of them are on the defensive, and it will probably continue for a while. As a fan of both fighters, it's sad to read some of the comments.
Regarding Roy vs GG at MW, I respect your opinion, but I can't agree. Roy's unorthodox footwork was a thing of beauty. I honestly don't think GG could have cut the ring off like he has against all of his other opponents. Roy would have kept him in the centre of the ring, second guessing. Look how easy GG is to hit, and then look at Roy's athleticism, timing and reflexes. Look at his punch selection and his power. Go and watch his 2nd round knockout of Thomas Tate, he was decent and he'd gone the distance with Jackson. I just don't see how GG could have found Roy's chin. I don't think Roy would have been there to be hit. I think Roy would have won a decision and marked him up bad.Last edited by robertzimmerman; 10-03-2016, 12:55 PM.
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Originally posted by Slick_Rick View PostYou are thinking too simplistic. They might be bigger then GGG, but you are failing to take into account the angles and the connection of impact of the punches. Many of GGG sparring partners says he hits like a LHW.
Ruiz is one of the worst HW champions in recent history. GGG is a much better boxer then him. I would even favor GGG against him, stopping him, in fact.
Tarver was a very good boxer but i would still say GGG has the more talented offense.
If Jones makes it to the end of the 12, he wins, but i just dont think he will make it...
Ruiz being one of the worst is an opinion doesnt change the facts a heavyweight couldnt knock Jones out....people didnt like ruiz style but he was one of the best heavyweights of his era with wins over Golota, Rahman, Kirk Johnson, Jameel McCline, Holyfield, Oquendo and others. For that era he was one of the best and a mainstay in title contention. He hit a lot harder than GGG bro...no dis*****g that
you'd favor GGG over john ruiz? Dude wont even fight super middleweights...his defense sucks, and he lacks the style to even deal with bigger fighters....Ruiz would knock his block off. GGG doesnt move his head and we've never seen him in with a guy over 6' or 200 lbs
different folks different strokes....Jones proved he could take hard shots from 154-175 and didnt get hurt and stopped until clearly past it
angles? How was GGG going to land on Jones enough to knock him out? he has never faced anyone near jones talent level.
you think really highly of GGG.....he is a good fighter but he couldnt carry Jones jock strap or lace his boots
how long have you been following boxing? the last 2 years? did you ever watch Jones fights live?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostI dont care what sparring partners say....proof is in the pudding....Jones knocked out fighters from 160-175 in actually fights and actually took hard right hands from a heavyweight and didnt wobble or get dropped.
Ruiz being one of the worst is an opinion doesnt change the facts a heavyweight couldnt knock Jones out....people didnt like ruiz style but he was one of the best heavyweights of his era with wins over Golota, Rahman, Kirk Johnson, Jameel McCline, Holyfield, Oquendo and others. For that era he was one of the best and a mainstay in title contention. He hit a lot harder than GGG bro...no dis*****g that
you'd favor GGG over john ruiz? Dude wont even fight super middleweights...his defense sucks, and he lacks the style to even deal with bigger fighters....Ruiz would knock his block off. GGG doesnt move his head and we've never seen him in with a guy over 6' or 200 lbs
different folks different strokes....Jones proved he could take hard shots from 154-175 and didnt get hurt and stopped until clearly past it
angles? How was GGG going to land on Jones enough to knock him out? he has never faced anyone near jones talent level.
you think really highly of GGG.....he is a good fighter but he couldnt carry Jones jock strap or lace his boots
how long have you been following boxing? the last 2 years? did you ever watch Jones fights live?
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