Floyd's Check Hook

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  • Zaroku
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    #11
    He threw it randomly so it threw his opponents off. PAC, Canelo understood and so threw less punches than they ever did. Hatton never expected it, the hit the turnbuckle.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      It's how he developed that punch to reroute his opponents, it worked it's best against Pacquiao in my opinion, although some will say Hatton.

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      • AllEyesOpen
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        #13
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
        anybody else think Broner slightly has own style, but not as graceful
        Broner has the flash but doesnt control distance as well so he is much easier to hit, ask Maidana.

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        • FeFist
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          #14
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          You don't neutralize a neutralizer. His check hooks are a response to an opponent closing distance. If the opponent made themselves unavailable for that shot, Floyd didn't throw it. The natural followup is a pivot so he wasn't there to be countered after.
          People keep asking why boxing's popularity is waning and I think some of the answers can be found in theopening post.

          People lack a fundamental understanding of what is going on. The question is similar to asking why someone doesn't take a shot from near the corner post. Most people play football so they understand the limitations and can appreciate when someone like Roberto does something magical.

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          • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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            #15
            lmfao what are they supposed to do stop in middle stride and change the direction of their momentum lmfao once the fighter commits to their rush (closing distance) theirs no stopping the check hook if timed properly (which mayweather does).

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            • !! Shawn
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              #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              You don't neutralize a neutralizer. His check hooks are a response to an opponent closing distance. If the opponent made themselves unavailable for that shot, Floyd didn't throw it. The natural followup is a pivot so he wasn't there to be countered after.
              This is wrong.

              Floyd Check hook was setup by jabbing to the body for most the fight. You watch his check hook it starts off as a feinted jab most the time, and his opponent instinctively reaches down to block a body jab at which point Floyd comes up to.

              Certain punches are set up by other punches, not just preceding them, but by conditioning your opponent to what punch you are going to throw in a situation and and whats coming after that.

              If you do the same thing for several rounds, then switch it up, they wont be ready for it. Thats why it never came out until the later rounds. Its also why he always started off with a jab to the body.

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              • Redd Foxx
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                #17
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                This is wrong.

                Floyd Check hook was setup by jabbing to the body for most the fight. You watch his check hook it starts off as a feinted jab most the time, and his opponent instinctively reaches down to block a body jab at which point Floyd comes up to.

                Certain punches are set up by other punches, not just preceding them, but by conditioning your opponent to what punch you are going to throw in a situation and and whats coming after that.

                If you do the same thing for several rounds, then switch it up, they wont be ready for it. Thats why it never came out until the later rounds. Its also why he always started off with a jab to the body.
                I think you're confusing a check hook with a pull counter. You're confusing it with something, that's for sure.

                EDIT;
                Here you go. Larry's description of the Matador scenario was a good one.

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  It's how he developed that punch to reroute his opponents, it worked it's best against Pacquiao in my opinion, although some will say Hatton.
                  Umm.... Corralles?

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                  • SweetPbfAli
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                    It's how he developed that punch to reroute his opponents, it worked it's best against Pacquiao in my opinion, although some will say Hatton.
                    I agree. It said a lot about Manny's lack of IQ. Floyd used the check hook and pivot move every time Manny closed distance and got him to the ropes. Manny would over commit, Floyd would turn him and start all over lol. Funny thing is that Mosley really showed Manny's lack of ring generalship when dealing with movement and that's far from Mosley's forte.

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                    • !! Shawn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      I think you're confusing a check hook with a pull counter. You're confusing it with something, that's for sure.
                      A pull counter? No... Ive been boxing for 15 years... I know the difference.

                      Floyd has two kinds of check hooks. One of them is a directing traffic hook that he uses to pivot off off, the other when he wants you to think twice about coming in. Its a hook off a shoulder feint.

                      Notice how he dropped Coralles hands with the feint to open him up for the check hook every time.

                      Ths set up from the consitent body jabbing.

                      But feinting is a whole nother level of contemplated strategy to get into. Just understand he sets it up with a feint.

                      If he didn't everyone would just come in with their hand high and block it.
                      Floyd was very good at feinting body then coming head.

                      Has nothing to do with a pull counter...

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