Anyone see Tyson vs. Douglas live?

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  • mokele
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    #41
    yep saw it on TV

    I saw the fight on TV. I remember that afterwards, Don King tried to make a fuss about Douglas receiving a long count when he got knocked down by an uppercut earlier in the fight but that controversy was eventually muffled and forgotten. Tyson was not his usual self that night. He didn't seem to have his usual energy or aggressiveness and couldn't work his way inside of the Douglas jab or get off first. Douglas also tied him up inside which I didn't like, but most of Tyson's opponents did the same thing.

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    • SnoopySmurf
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      #42
      Originally posted by 7001
      Had the count been right when Douglas went down in the 8th rnd, boxing history would be different. He should have never got the chance to put Tyson down in the 10th.
      Douglas was listening to the ref as he counted and got up at the appropriate time. He didn't know the ref started late. Even if he did, he wasn't all that shook up that he couldn't get up right away.

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        #43
        Originally posted by mokele
        I saw the fight on TV. I remember that afterwards, Don King tried to make a fuss about Douglas receiving a long count when he got knocked down by an uppercut earlier in the fight but that controversy was eventually muffled and forgotten. Tyson was not his usual self that night. He didn't seem to have his usual energy or aggressiveness and couldn't work his way inside of the Douglas jab or get off first. Douglas also tied him up inside which I didn't like, but most of Tyson's opponents did the same thing.
        Tyson's corner and trainer was to blame for most of this. They had practically nothing to stop the swelling he got from Buster's long jabs. He stayed at a peek-a-boo stance without his bobbing and weaving and trying to attack the body.

        Goes to show you that no matter how naturally gifted you are at fighting, you still have little chance against a well trained fighter. Tyson threw out Cuss Demato's training out the window and got too reliant on his power.

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        • Mike Tyson77
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          #44
          Originally posted by 2nd II none
          To this day I still say tyson won that fight way before he ever got knocked out.

          Agreed. I just wish Tyson wasnt hung over, out of shape, and untrained and we would have never seen him lose that night.

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          • Revere
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            #45
            Did either of you even see the fight? If you had I doubt you'd say what you have.

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            • Jenks88
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              #46
              Tyson looked alright physically for the fight--he was at his fighting weight, 220 lbs. He just looked listless and unintested. He didn't fight anywhere near his best, but credit should be given to Douglas, who fought a very good fight. Douglas had a lot of talent and could have had a much better career had he been able to maintain the level of focus he had for the Tyson fight.
              Douglas gave Tyson a whipping. I had him ahead 7-1 and 1 even going into the 10th round. Plus, though I'm not sure if this is against the rules, I would only give Tyson 10-9 for his 8th round knockdown, cause aside from the knockdown Douglas was winning every second of that round. Also, I think 95% of heavyweights would have gone down from the combination Douglas KO'd Tyson with. It was vicious...huge uppercut followed by 4 hard shots. Douglas may not be a hard puncher compared to some other heavyweights, but when you get hit cleanly by a 230 lb man as many times as Tyson did, you are gonna go down. Tyson unquestionably had a first-rate chin.
              Tyson could have had Ray Arcel and Eddie Futch in his corner that night and he still would have lost. The lack of an end-swell does not change the fact that Douglas was completely dominating Tyson from the opening bell; Tyson was completely off his game and probably didn't even want to fight. Douglas's focus and Tyson's lack thereof determined the outcome of that fight.
              Tyson and Douglas both had huge physical talent, but they were mentally weak.
              Last edited by Jenks88; 05-09-2006, 05:43 PM.

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              • 7001
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                #47
                300 mil points to any one that can up load that fight for me. It's been years since I have seen it and would like to watch it again with a more open mind.

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                  #48
                  that fight was so great. its like the castillo corrales I of the heavyweight divsion

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                  • Jenks88
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                    #49
                    Douglas beat Tyson fair and square. It was the ref's fault he picked up the count late, not Douglas'. Plus, you'll remember that as soon as Douglas went down he punched the mat in anger, indicating that he was probably OK and could have gotten up in time had the ref's count been accurate. And if he was dazed when got up it wouldn't matter--the round was over, or had like maybe 5 seconds left.

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                    • The Noose
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sho-Nuff
                      Your right. Holyfield a natural light heavywieght was pushing Tyson around and working his ass over. I will admit that Evander was the king at butting and getting away with it.
                      I meant that Tyson was the one looking for a way out coz he knew he was getting his ass kicked.
                      Any other fighter with any balls would fight back until the end.

                      Tyson IMO, became a ****ing ***** that night against Holyfield by trying to get Holyfield disqualified.

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