Wilder-Haye; April 2017?

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  • Redd Foxx
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums!
    Haye will duck but if he does fight Wilder destroys him
    Haye will get mysteriously injured in the last 4 weeks of training. Just in time to collect a few sponsor checks without actually having to fight.

    I would love to see Deontay plant that phony mfkr on the canvas. Hope this fight comes through.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Wilder has a year to fight that guy, and those guys are not known for quick turnarounds like that anyway.

      Wilder will likely get that because that is a pretty big money fight, when has the WBC not accommodated something that would make them money?
      How does he have a year? He hasn't made a mandatory defence in over a year.

      His mandatory will be the fight, not Haye.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #23
        Haye is definetly the that could make Wilder pay for how open he leaves himself inside.

        Wilder would pretty much have to approach that fight like the Stiverne fight and stick the jab with the right hand bomb behind it making Haye have to close the distance which is not his forte. If Wilder gives up his range Haye will have a lot of opportunity to do his thing.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #24
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          How does he have a year? He hasn't made a mandatory defence in over a year.

          His mandatory will be the fight, not Haye.
          The position vacated when Povetkin blew it, so he has a year from when Povetkin-Stiverne happens.

          We are talking the WBC right? The same organization, because you are basically telling me the sky is orange~. If Wilder and Haye was not a big fight you might be right but that particular fight would be pretty big business, so the WBC will want both because Haye and Wilder both bring pretty good coin so they don't care who fights the winner of their mandatory out of those two.

          If the winner is Stiverne what I said cubed.
          Last edited by The Gambler1981; 09-22-2016, 08:40 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            The position vacated when Povetkin blew it, so he has a year from when Povetkin-Stiverne happens.

            We are talking the WBC right? The same organization, because you are basically telling me the sky is orange~. If Wilder and Haye was not a big fight you might be right but that particular fight would be pretty big business, so the WBC will want both because Haye and Wilder both bring pretty good coin so they don't care who fights the winner of their mandatory out of those two.
            No it didn't vacate. Wilder v Povetkin was going to be ordered but Wilder got injured. The mandatory WILL be next.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              No it didn't vacate. Wilder v Povetkin was going to be ordered but Wilder got injured. The mandatory WILL be next.
              Yes it got vacated or Povetkin wouldn't be fighting for the position, he is lucky there was enough gray area to even get that deal. This fight is for mandatory status, which Povetkin already had so if he was just waiting on Wilder to heal he could have done whatever not be order to do something by the WBC for which he already possessed.

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                #27
                Id be downright ****ing shocked if this fight actually happens. Haye will pull out for sure. Heavyweights need to avoid him like the plague. Not because hes good but because he never shows up.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Yes it got vacated or Povetkin wouldn't be fighting for the position, he is lucky there was enough gray area to even get that deal. This fight is for mandatory status, which Povetkin already had so if he was just waiting on Wilder to heal he could have done whatever not be order to do something by the WBC for which he already possessed.
                  No dumb-dumb.... Povetkin and Stiverne are fighting for the Interim Title.. and if IF IF IF IF Wilder comes back, he will have to face them, the Champ in Recess vs Interim Champ.

                  If Wilder did not get injured, his next required fight before he drops his belt was Povetkin. No ifs ands or buts.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    From years ago and Deontay has improved since but even in recent fights he still leaves enough gaps for Haye's right hand to catch him.


                    Haye has fought 3 rounds in the 3 years after this.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MaksBox
                      No dumb-dumb.... Povetkin and Stiverne are fighting for the Interim Title.. and if IF IF IF IF Wilder comes back, he will have to face them, the Champ in Recess vs Interim Champ.

                      If Wilder did not get injured, his next required fight before he drops his belt was Povetkin. No ifs ands or buts.
                      That never happened, right now the fight is for mandatory position. I remember Povetkin promoter talking that noise but he was saying how is should be not what it actually is. I am telling you how it is you are telling me how it might be.

                      According to Andrey Ryabinsky, who promotes Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin, the ongoing negotiations for the mandatory fight with Bermane Stiverne are still ongoing and both sides have until September 30th or else a purse bid will take place.


                      Does that say interim title or mandatory position. Even if it was interim the WBC will still allow a money fight to happen, because their rules are more like guidelines not actual rules.

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