Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Sends Counter-Offer Terms For Canelo PPV

[Ake-Dawg]

1. Can't be mad at Loeffler at this point. The first counter must be higher than your bottom line. The real question is whether or not he will accept less than a 40% split. Neither fighter can make as much in one fight as this fight, but Alvarez has time and a ppv fan base on his side that must be factored in.

2. Hardcore Golovkin fans seem to over value him from a box office perspective. As much as NSB posters love him, his fights don't generate a lot of revenue. The crowd at O2 was clearly a pro Brook crowd and it's hard to assign credit for the SkyBox ppv numbers to Golovkin. Surely he deserves some, but all or most? Not likely. Likely scenario was UK fans tuned in to see if their guy could beat the middleweight Goliath.

3. If Golovkin doesn't get another ppv, the 97k-150k ppv will be the only data point used in negotiations.

4. Projected popularity is a tough position to argue. Why? You can't assume that Golovkin popularity among paying fans will grow while Alvarez popularity stagnates. Alvarez could fight Saunders, Brook, or Jacobs and gain additional fans just as easily.

5. Seems when a hardcore Golovkin fan can't muster a counter argument or doesn't want to acknowledge truths, they call others haters. Boxing Logic, your opinion isn't truth and your hubris is embarrassing. You do have a few fans of the books you frequently write as posts, are they failed articles that other sites didn't pay you for?

[M Bison]

See if the fight was happening ASAP in May I'd say he should just accept it but fact remains we need to probably wait a year and a few months for it so what do Loefller and GGG have to lose?
I still think its unacceptable agreeing a fight a year + in advance that's disrespectful to everyone you face before that said fight.

[Bronx2245]

I think the Canelo vs. Smith PPV & gate numbers will have an impact on these negotiations. GGG is not Pacquiao. Thus far he doesn't have comparable numbers to Canelo, whereas Manny had good numbers, even though Floyd's numbers were better. The fact that you're the champion, and you're sending counter offers, says that clearly, you're the b-side! If I'm K2, I accept the flat fee, but the fight has to be in May, not September!

[OnePunch]

you really have to question the sanity of posters who feel that terms must be agreed to immediately for a fight that is a year away. What difference does it make whether they reach an agreement now or 6 months from now, the fight isnt going to happen a single day sooner.

Now if we were talking about a May date, ok, then you have an argument. But we're not.

[Buckfever]

True, but Floyd made about $25m and that was almost a decade ago.

It was a much bigger fight than this one IMO. Nor does GGG bring similar #s to Floyd.

[Metho_4u]

GGG is A-side so he should get 75-25 in his favour, Canelo has 2 losses on his record that draw was basically a loss.

Lmao, you're ****ing ******

[bojangles1987]

See if the fight was happening ASAP in May I'd say he should just accept it but fact remains we need to probably wait a year and a few months for it so what do Loefller and GGG have to lose?
I still think its unacceptable agreeing a fight a year + in advance that's disrespectful to everyone you face before that said fight.

Negotiating the purse for a fight at least a year away is so ridiculous. Especially considering the potential stardom of the two fighters involved. No one will or should come to a hard agreement because it is utterly ridiculous. Golovkin's negotiating position will improve immensely if he beats Jacobs and Saunders before September 2017. Just beating Jacobs will do a lot. Plus with every passing fight that isn't against him, Alvarez will face even more pressure to fight Golovkin.

The only people who think this offer or these negotiations should be decided right now are people who want to call Golovkin a ducker and pretend Alvarez didn't duck him.

[bojangles1987]

you really have to question the sanity of posters who feel that terms must be agreed to immediately for a fight that is a year away. What difference does it make whether they reach an agreement now or 6 months from now, the fight isnt going to happen a single day sooner.

Now if we were talking about a May date, ok, then you have an argument. But we're not.

Exactly. These "negotiations" are an attempted PR move by Golden Boy to alleviate the criticism for ducking Golovkin. That anyone pretends otherwise is absurd.

[NEETzsche]

i hope K2 and GGG are willing to go down to 30% to get the fight made. that sounds like a fair split to me

but i'm not actually sure that 30% would even surpass $10m, so if i was loeffler i would take that offer

after all, canelo accepted a paltry 25% split against cotto even though he was probably the bigger draw. concessions = investments sometimes

[EL_GRINGO]

Good by Loefler,Ask more then what you want,offer 60-40 to land at 70-30 or something in that region.
Whatever you do,do not sign now!
Fight Jacobs first and then unify with BJS and get a better deal at the bargaining table