Is Jacobs a "challenge" for Golovkin?

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  • Elotero
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    #101
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    His chin was never tested by Quillin, Pete never got a shot off.

    Sergio Mora is the lightest puncher in the MW division. He shouldn't be dropping anybody.
    Heres what I would add:

    His chin was never tested by Quillen - True. Turns out it didnt need to be tested. That didnt make Quillen any less of a threat before the fight. Ability to create 1st round KOs of that caliber opponent should trump the "weak chin" talk.

    Mora has more skill than people like to give him credit for. He isnt the biggest puncher of course but you cant take anything away from his craft. The man probably practiced that punch over and over and over and made the most of it. Probably would have KO'd less sturdy men. KD's happen.

    Furthermore, if Danny Jacobs has a weak chin from getting knocked down by Sergio Mora, then Kovalev and Beterbiev must also have suspect chins because at least Ive heard of the guy who knocked down Danny. Cant say that the guys who KD Beterbiev or Kovalev are even at the remote skill level of a Sergio Mora. (Kovalev and Beterbiev are solid guys. KDs happen)

    Im not saying Danny is the new Bert Cooper of MW either. The common thing between Pirog and Latin Snake was that theyre both kinda tricky boxers but Pirog had much more pop than Mora. Neither of those guys fights like GGG (who is no Pernell Whitaker himself) so I see this as a very close fight and may even favor Jacobs chances.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #102
      I don't know why people put so much stock in the Pirog fight for jacobs, he almost died from cancer less than a year after. Pretty sure that would effect his ability to really hang in a tough fight, and he seems healthy currently so I don't know that anything should be taken from that fight.

      I still think Golovkin is the better fighter and expect him to win so if I expect a guy to win and he wins he gets credit for taking care of business but how much credit do you give someone for doing something you expect them to do?

      Still Jacobs is a decent challenge and while I will enjoy clowning some people if Jacobs wins, I won't think that much less of Golovkin because Jacobs will have proven better than I thought.

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      • stuff jones
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        #103
        Originally posted by Elotero
        Heres what I would add:

        Furthermore, if Danny Jacobs has a weak chin from getting knocked down by Sergio Mora, then Kovalev and Beterbiev must also have suspect chins because at least Ive heard of the guy who knocked down Danny. Cant say that the guys who KD Beterbiev or Kovalev are even at the remote skill level of a Sergio Mora. (Kovalev and Beterbiev are solid guys. KDs happen)
        Power is not necessarily related to fame. Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they can't punch. We do know for a fact that Mora can't punch though.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Kigali
          What if GGG gets caught on those old ribs?

          You better check Danny's KO ratio....not many people are taking good shots from Jacobs.
          Body shots might be Jacobs' best bet. But I think not only will he have to score a KO early, but he'll have to do so by setting a trap of some sort. Going balls to the wall is too risky for Jacobs.

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            #105
            Absolutely. Anyone who says he isn't is either a GGG fanboy ****** or a hater with an agenda. Jacobs KO win ratio is just as impressive as GGG's. Dude can crack and he has good speed. He is also tall for the weightclass and has good fundamentals.

            As a GGG fan I would be more nervous watching GGG and Jacobs fight than say Saunders or Canelo, because Jacobs has legit KO power and GGG can get hit. Like there's a higher chance GGG get's caught with a huge shot and gets KO'ed against Jacobs.

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            • Kigali
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              #106
              Originally posted by Derranged
              Body shots might be Jacobs' best bet. But I think not only will he have to score a KO early, but he'll have to do so by setting a trap of some sort. Going balls to the wall is too risky for Jacobs.
              GGG looks like he's giving birth between rounds...regardless the opponent.

              His stamina is crap.

              He's the one that better score an early KO.

              Kell was able to take over that later parts of the rounds....that is not a good sign for GGG fans.

              Too bad Kell didn't dig a hard body shot..that would have changed everything.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Kigali
                GGG looks like he's giving birth between rounds...regardless the opponent.

                His stamina is crap.

                He's the one that better score an early KO.

                Kell was able to take over that later parts of the rounds....that is not a good sign for GGG fans.

                Too bad Kell didn't dig a hard body shot..that would have changed everything.
                Golovkin threw 816 punches in 11 rounds versus Murray, I think it is safe to say that Golovkin's stamina is good.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Humean
                  Golovkin threw 816 punches in 11 rounds versus Murray, I think it is safe to say that Golovkin's stamina is good.
                  Murray wasn't exactly making Golovkin work extra hard to throw those punches. It is a lot easier if a guy is kind of letting you throw, with little coming back that is a threat.

                  I don't think Golovkin has bad stamina but I need to see a guy fight hard rounds.

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                  • Kigali
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Humean
                    Golovkin threw 816 punches in 11 rounds versus Murray, I think it is safe to say that Golovkin's stamina is good.
                    Against Murray....a guy he knew was no threat and couldn't hurt him.

                    GGG has shi.t stamina.

                    Kell was taking over the later part of the rounds.

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                    • Humean
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Murray wasn't exactly making Golovkin work extra hard to throw those punches. It is a lot easier if a guy is kind of letting you throw, with little coming back that is a threat.

                      I don't think Golovkin has bad stamina but I need to see a guy fight hard rounds.
                      Throwing that many punches is still throwing a lot regardless.



                      Originally posted by Kigali
                      Against Murray....a guy he knew was no threat and couldn't hurt him.

                      GGG has shi.t stamina.

                      Kell was taking over the later part of the rounds.
                      Believe what you want, prejudice is blinding.

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