Can someone explain to me how Pacquiao never breaks his hands?

[StefanTosic]

Was that a typo? You can really fk up your wrist throwing hooks with it bent. Keep your wrist straight and contact with the knuckle.
Always keep your knuckles lined-up with your forearm and strike with the knuckles. That's part of what your wraps are trying to help you do.

No man, it has to do with what you mentioned about the training gloves being too flexible at the wrist area. Prehaps I think I wrote the wrong reason for hurting my wrist, in fact I do just slightly bend it (as my longtime coach is always telling us to do), but sometimes I forget to keep my left wrist tight while throwing a left hook, so when I throw it with my wrist being relaxed I hurt it. So that's probably the real reason.
I don't know man, it feels safer to me to just slightly (but not too much) bend my wrist and keep it tight like my coach is saying.

[PivotandRoll]

This dude is a monster on the heavybag, other boxers do not do full blast punches on the bag with 10 oz gloves like that. He also likes punching at the lower end of the bag which is the hardest part its like concrete.

The most I ever seen him get hurt on the hand was swelling from bad wraps but his bones were not broken.

for a little guy he must have some hard ass bones

So unlike other fighters Manny is constantly strengthening his hands by hitting the tough end of the bag..... Seriously was this just to jack Manny off or are you dumb enough to not know that you know the answer?

[PivotandRoll]

Was that a typo? You can really fk up your wrist throwing hooks with it bent. Keep your wrist straight and contact with the knuckle.
Always keep your knuckles lined-up with your forearm and strike with the knuckles. That's part of what your wraps are trying to help you do.

Ummm you are so wrong it's hilarious ...You turn your wrist in a lock it and neither Canelo or Garcia throw the punch correctly.... Go watch Ray Leonard hit the heavy bag....There's training clips on youtube or watch Robinson training clips...The Wrist should be turned in and locked ...NOT straight.

And THIS is whats wrong with modern boxing trainers....

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I'll even do the work for you....Notice Ray's wrist position at all times...Slightly turned in rather than straight on

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4 minute mark...Shows fighters hitting the speed bag...Notice the difference between Tyson(straight wrist) and Leonard and Robinson(slightly bent) ....Tyson broke his hand when he punched Mitch Green because he doesn't punch properly....

[Redd Foxx]

Ummm you are so wrong it's hilarious ...You turn your wrist in a lock it and neither Canelo or Garcia throw the punch correctly.... Go watch Ray Leonard hit the heavy bag....There's training clips on youtube or watch Robinson training clips...The Wrist should be turned in and locked ...NOT straight.

And THIS is whats wrong with modern boxing trainers....

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I'll even do the work for you....Notice Ray's wrist position at all times...Slightly turned in rather than straight on

https://<iframe width="560" height="...reen></iframe>

4 minute mark...Shows fighters hitting the speed bag...Notice the difference between Tyson(straight wrist) and Leonard and Robinson(slightly bent) ....Tyson broke his hand when he punched Mitch Green because he doesn't punch properly....

Yes, the modern pros do it incorrectly and all modern trainers are clueless. It's the boxing forum blow-hards that have the answers. Canelo and Danny G have some of the best left hooks in boxing but they're "doing it wrong"... Lol.
Damned Manny Steward didn't teach Tommy Hearns the right way either I suppose... Too bad he didn't have some NSB jerkoff coaching him...

If you like it one way, have fun. Yours is clearly not the only way and definitely not the favored way.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

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[Zaroku]

This dude is a monster on the heavybag, other boxers do not do full blast punches on the bag with 10 oz gloves like that. He also likes punching at the lower end of the bag which is the hardest part its like concrete.

The most I ever seen him get hurt on the hand was swelling from bad wraps but his bones were not broken.

for a little guy he must have some hard ass bones

I gotta give PAC that for sure. I'm a much bigger man, and hit a tiny bit harderi
I put a few to sleep, broke my hands a few times. Had my face split opened by an elbow.

****ing boxing right. I blame myself for not having the skills to avoid, trap or slip an elbow. My woman loves the scars. Ugly as I am, I handle my business.

[PivotandRoll]

Yes, the modern pros do it incorrectly and all modern trainers are clueless. It's the boxing forum blow-hards that have the answers. Canelo and Danny G have some of the best left hooks in boxing but they're "doing it wrong"... Lol.
Damned Manny Steward didn't teach Tommy Hearns the right way either I suppose... Too bad he didn't have some NSB jerkoff coaching him...

If you like it one way, have fun. Yours is clearly not the only way and definitely not the favored way.

Yes they do....99% of them....

They have some of the best left hooks yes.....Their delivery of the punch is tremendous...Doesn't change the flaw in their technique...

Manny Steward is the perfect example of a trainer forgoing many of boxings aspects to focus on the long/safe game of a educated 1/2...... Great trainer but not complete at all..

I don't have to be better or even nearly as good as a trainer to unerstand simple technique you could pick up in a text book.

[StefanTosic]

I fully agree with PivotandRoll, both of them get a great leverage on their left hooks. No offense Redd Foxx but throwing coaches names to make a point proves nothing. My coach is not a famous one but is very respected and known for teaching a perfect technique and the world class boxers are coming to be trained by him.

To make a point: There are many boxers who have a great left hook, but even they are still getting wild from time to time and swing wildly with it, they can get away with it simply because they are world class boxers. Garcia's hook is a great exemple.

Every trainer when teaching how to throw a textbook left hook would tell you not to let your fist come all the way to your right side and leave you opened and off balance. Instead they would teach you to keep it short and compact.

I'm not trying to play a forum expert now but compare Danny Garcia who sometimes swings wildly with his left hook and lets his fist travel from his left side all the way to the right side of his body like Frazier in this famous picture for example


Now compare Garcia with Golovkin who's left hook almost never goes past his head to the right side of his body, instead it's always short and once he reaches the center of his body with his fist, he doesn't push it further, instead he brings it back and that's why he's always on balance while throwing punches and can not be opened for counters the way the other boxers are when they miss with a wild hook.

EDIT:
This is a great example, his fist is traveling up to the center of his body, which is his head, but never past it.

[jmrf4435]

A prime pac would have KO'd anyone at 140-47. I'm sorry

[Redd Foxx]

I fully agree with PivotandRoll, both of them get a great leverage on their left hooks. No offense Redd Foxx but throwing coaches names to make a point proves nothing. My coach is not a famous one but is very respected and known for teaching a perfect technique and the world class boxers are coming to be trained by him.

To make a point: There are many boxers who have a great left hook, but even they are still getting wild from time to time and swing wildly with it, they can get away with it simply because they are world class boxers. Garcia's hook is a great exemple.

Every trainer when teaching how to throw a textbook left hook would tell you not to let your fist come all the way to your right side and leave you opened and off balance. Instead they would teach you to keep it short and compact.

I'm not trying to play a forum expert now but compare Danny Garcia who sometimes swings wildly with his left hook and lets his fist travel from his left side all the way to the right side of his body like Frazier in this famous picture for example


Now compare Garcia with Golovkin who's left hook almost never goes past his head to the right side of his body, instead it's always short and once he reaches the center of his body with his fist, he doesn't push it further, instead he brings it back and that's why he's always on balance while throwing punches and can not be opened for counters the way the other boxers are when they miss with a wild hook.

EDIT:
This is a great example, his fist is traveling up to the center of his body, which is his head, but never past it.

I'm not going to try to make you feel bad about your coach but bending the wrist inward is notorious for causing problems (you can find a ton of info online about this). It's not as solid as an aligned wrist and if you land awkwardly, you have a great risk of rolling your wrist. The thread is about hand health, which is the only reason I bring it up. I had a coach teach me the bent version and it left me in pain until I had other coaches correct me, showing me the safer and more powerful way to throw.

Ergonomically, what sense does it make to throw your whole body into a power shot, but compromise the weakest joint in the series? There's a reason most of the world, including elite athletes, and even the video you posted (!) don't do that.

As far as tight hooks vs lose, absolutely it's good to keep them tight WHEN YOU CAN. Fact is that actual boxing is not an ideal scenario and your opponent will fk up all your plans for swinging perfect punches. You can't always wait for them to be in the perfect spot or put yourself there. You sometimes need to shoot when the opportunity presented itself.

You bringing up Danny Garcia actually defeats your own argument. He hammered the flat footed version of Morales with a short left hook. Less challenging opponents allow good form to come easier. Not that I approve of Danny's tendency toward windmill hooks. He's fking awful about that. But, it's clear that it's not what he sets out to do. He ends up that way when he gets sloppy or takes risks, which is often.