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  • #51
    Originally posted by casheddie View Post
    Nah cause Floyd "IV" Mayweather cheated
    i forgot, according to the pac-tards, pac is still undefeated.

    mayweather cheated, JMM was on roids, judges robbed him against bradley, he was malnourished early in his career, morales didnt let him use his punchers gloves hahaha

    you see how pathetic you pac-tards are.

    fact is mayweather out boxed him silly and JMM ended his career to the point where roach and his people dont want pac in with a puncher ROFL.

    pac has no heart.

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    • #52
      In most cases, you see the 0 and you know the fighter hasn't been facing the the top opposition.
      All the people's favourites back in the day had losses, because they faced other top fighters. That's why the were people's favourites.

      I think the 0 has been looked upon by some guys now as a money maker. A stat that can help them sell well to the casual, and if they take that loss, their value will fall.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by casheddie View Post
        I say it's Mayweather's fault because the great competition under Haymon's umbrella of fighters all follow the Mayweather formula. They look to fight bums and then get to the real competition later.

        When you talk about UFC fooling their audience you have to remember that you are a casual UFC fan and a hardcore boxing fan. The way you look at Diaz/McGregor and criticize is like some casual telling me boxing is boring because they watched May-Pac and didn't like it.

        If you watched the UFC often you would know that they had a great fight just two weeks ago.

        And you guys bringing up CM Punk all the time is such a cop out for the great competitive fights the UFC always puts up. Just because thats the fight you saw doesn't mean it's how the UFC is.

        In boxing 60% of fights are considered mismatched, in the UFC it's probably 10%.
        It's been like that before Mayweather in a business with a bunch of independents all after their best interest a fighter getting a L pushes that fighter back 2 spots. You sound like a idiot blaming Maywesther

        It's not like UFC with 1 plantation owner paying meager wages and giving the fighter no options only looking out for the companies interest. Both ways have their positives and drawbacks

        Your right I don't follow UFC I wouldn't even consider myself a casual now it's become less of a sport it releys on gimmicks to draw people in

        Your wrong Diaz /Mcgregor isn't the same as May/Pac. May /Pac are the best of their generation, People complaining come across as some b.itch a.ss f.agot and cried that IT wasn't exciting then you obviously don't care about the best fighting the best. Sometimes in sport it's the results that count it's not always going to be thrilling

        Connor hasn't proved he's his eras best. Diaz is a journeyman you got caught up in the hype that fight was exciting but worth nothing. It's the boxing equivalent of Keith Thurman fighting Gabe Rosado

        How many best vs the best fights (top 5s ) have UFC done this summer because all I see is gimmicks and sideshows to sell their product using women, Faded names and WWE WRESTLERS . Boxings had Porter /Thurman , Crawford/Pistol, Santa Cruz / Frampton , Chocolatito /Caudras legit top guys fighting each other

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        • #54
          Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
          Berto was as shitty a fight as there could've been. I'll give you that, but are you going to act like Ortiz and Guerrero weren't legit fights at the time? What had Khan or Thurman done in the division at the time that was better?

          That's true.

          At the time Ortiz was WBC Champion, coming off a win beating an undefeated hyped Berto. You can't really say that is a bad opponent at the time of signing the fight.

          It's easy to look back with hindsight and say certain fights were bad, but you have to judge a fight on the time the fight was signed.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Kigali View Post
            You just described K2's formula.

            Mayweather has challenged himself far more than GGG has.
            Who should GGG fight because I don't see anyone that would impress you. A hater is a hater. When GGG couldn't get Martinez to fight him, I guess that was part of the "formula" right. He wanted the lineal champ but that guy said no and now GGG's at fault for that.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Kigali View Post
              WOW!...What a murderer's row.
              Just reading those names was mortifying.

              What does beating them prove.????????????????????????????????????

              You're admitting GGG is shi.t by the low level expectations you have of him.

              You're one of the nut huggers that believes Ward is the only fighter on Earth that means anything to a resume.

              The guy beat the best from 2012, those days are gone. And so is his credibility.

              When GGG went to Peter Quillin, Sergio Martinez, Chavez Jr, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez and they all said no to the fight, that was the low level expectation we have of him.

              That he would want to fight those guys shows that he never really wanted big fights right. Or maybe he purposefully sabotaged negotiations to avoid the possibility of losing right.

              Work on your theories son.

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              • #57
                Boxing fans overreact and pretend they're the ones in the ring. Any thread to 'them' must be put down and discredited.

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                • #58
                  Impressive how a fighter with no heart has had a greater career than Pretty Boy then...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by casheddie View Post
                    He could've fought Thurman instead of Berto.
                    But when he fought Ortiz or Guerrero those guys could've been replaced with Bradley or Brook, even Porter.
                    Khan was the champ at light-welter but he could've easily moved up before he got KO'd.
                    He went for the easier fights.
                    He could've fought Thurman, but guess what? He didn't. He was retiring and, he'd just embarrassed his "rival". I'm not going to cry over it. Now tell me what Thurman had done in the division that was better than what Ortiz and Guerrero had done when Floyd fought them. You're ****ting on those fights, right?

                    He should've fought Bradley, Brook or Porter in 2011 instead of Ortiz? Bradley was at 140, Porter and Brook had literally done fuck all. Why would he have fought them then? Just so you can shit on them like you are with a fight that was better?

                    In 2013, Bradley was the only one that had done anything worth a damn; robbery over Manny, and struggles with Prov. Yeah, you'd have been fine with that one. Porter was nobody, Brook was struggling with Carson Jones. Please explain how those would've been better than Guerrero.

                    It's probably not your fault. You probably just started following the sport, and have no background on what things were like just a few years ago. It would help to do some research before embarrassing yourself like this again.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                      He could've fought Thurman, but guess what? He didn't. He was retiring and, he'd just embarrassed his "rival". I'm not going to cry over it. Now tell me what Thurman had done in the division that was better than what Ortiz and Guerrero had done when Floyd fought them. You're ****ting on those fights, right?

                      He should've fought Bradley, Brook or Porter in 2011 instead of Ortiz? Bradley was at 140, Porter and Brook had literally done fuck all. Why would he have fought them then? Just so you can shit on them like you are with a fight that was better?

                      In 2013, Bradley was the only one that had done anything worth a damn; robbery over Manny, and struggles with Prov. Yeah, you'd have been fine with that one. Porter was nobody, Brook was struggling with Carson Jones. Please explain how those would've been better than Guerrero.


                      It's probably not your fault. You probably just started following the sport, and have no background on what things were like just a few years ago. It would help to do some research before embarrassing yourself like this again.
                      Are you justifying the Ortiz fight with that crap cause I'm pretty sure Pac and Amir Khan weren't busy either.

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