Boxing's obsession with the 0

[b00g13man]

Mayweather outclassed great boxers but what he was doing towards the end was a mockery. C'mon, Berto? Guerrero? Ortiz? He didn't fight guys like Khan and Thurman for a reason. Even when he had the chance.

Berto was as shitty a fight as there could've been. I'll give you that, but are you going to act like Ortiz and Guerrero weren't legit fights at the time? What had Khan or Thurman done in the division at the time that was better?

[casheddie]

Berto was as shitty a fight as there could've been. I'll give you that, but are you going to act like Ortiz and Guerrero weren't legit fights at the time? What had Khan or Thurman done in the division at the time that was better?

He could've fought Thurman instead of Berto.
But when he fought Ortiz or Guerrero those guys could've been replaced with Bradley or Brook, even Porter.
Khan was the champ at light-welter but he could've easily moved up before he got KO'd.
He went for the easier fights.

[daggum]

Berto was as shitty a fight as there could've been. I'll give you that, but are you going to act like Ortiz and Guerrero weren't legit fights at the time? What had Khan or Thurman done in the division at the time that was better?

no they weren't legit because he should have been fighting pac. its like canelo fighting saunders(who is much better than either of those guys) it would be a solid fight but not a fight that mattered since everyone knows he is ducking ggg just like Floyd ducked. difference is when Floyd beat those guys his fanboys pretended like he accomplished something amazing and pretended pac wasn't worthy of a fight where as if canelo beat saunders no one would care they would just say stop ducking ggg. I'm glad fans are much more informed now than in the Floyd days.

[PAC-BOY]

**** the 0...

[bambam182]

**** the 0...

why cause pac-roid lost his HAHAHA

[Boxfan7819]

It's the business this whole undefeated thing is recent and also the fact it effects their stock... But to boxing experts undefeated record means nothing. Just look at their record and the quality of their opponents and whether they were in their prime this will show you if they are truly great

[PAC-BOY]

why cause pac-roid lost his HAHAHA

hahahaha....no.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think you're right but when you look at fighters like Garcia, Thurman, Canelo and GGG.

I think the reason they don't take fights with dangerous opposition is because they think they could never win. When it came to Duran, Hearns, Leonard and Hagler these guys believed that they could win. But nowadays the fighters don't have the confidence to go back and fight the guy again.

That goes back to the problem with boxing is if you lose a fight you might never get a chance to win back the belt or avenge the loss if the other fighter "ducks".

It's gotten to be quite ridiculous no doubt. Canelo of course, isn't undefeated, but he does want to keep his post-Floyd streak going of course. If he thought he would be GGG, I think he would have fought him in May or September. I think GGG believes he can beat Canelo and Jacobs and Saunders. Danny Garcia is really just milking his offtime these days. He didn't have a lot of confidence against Morales the first time, but obviously he should have. In their primes, I think Morales definitely beats him, but by the time they fought, he had the edge. He did fight Matthysse as well and has some good wins, but he doesn't appear to want anybody at 147. Truly sad. Thurman did man up and face Porter. Personally, I thought Porter took the fight but it was very close either way.

The bottom line is that the 0 without risk means nothing. A record with a few losses of a guy who risked is much more impressive. These guys are quite talented but they need to show it. You can blame Haymon to a point for paying them so well to face weak opposition. For me, showcase fights are for guys on the rise or on the comeback trial. All the guys you mentioned don't fall into either category. This is their time and they should be facing the best every time out. None are doing this and it is frustrating. This is one reason that Harry Greb is so respected. He fought literally everybody in his day who would fight him. So did Duran and Toney. You gotta love a fearless fighter no matter what his record is.

[Johnwoo8686]

So what, look at McGregor who lost and went right back for the rematch.

We have orange colored cunts like Canelo who lose to Mayweather and then never fight a dangerous fight again because it poses too much of a risk.

Now I know you don't know much about boxing or the UFC. Nate Diaz was a handpicked opponent by McGregor, a handpick that backfired. Diaz is a guy who has 11 losses and never won a title and he still whooped McGregor's ass the first time they fought, and he did it without training. That's embarrassing. A lot of the fighters on the UFC's roster were clowning McGregor afterwards. Sometimes, even a cherry picked opponent can end up upsetting the favorite and it happens more so in the UFC than in boxing because there are so many different ways to lose.

People aren't "obsessed" with the zero. People want to see greatness, they want to see dominance. When a guy goes undefeated for years he creates an aura of invicibility around him and we as human beings like to see that. Which is why Mayweather was a bigger draw than Pacquiao despite Pacquiao being the more fan friendly fighter. Dominance brings both adoration and animosity which makes people tune in either to see someone lose or to see if they can continue winning.

[Elroy The Great]

that 0 means everything to may, but its not mays fault. its rockys fault and boxings obsession with the hw div. holmes was chasing it and when he got real close, boxing was paying attention. hw crown matched with the 0, cmon. perfection is very enticing.

may having the 0 through multiple divs and being the best boxer of our generation was a prize his opponents were gunning for. added, may is a business man extraordinaire. cant read ?!?!? bfd. but as everyone has stated, if may would have lost, he might have been a better (liked ?) fighter. then again, he played that bad guy angle beautifully and it added a ton of 0's to his bank acct.