We should NOT respect fighters that avoid VADA

[Robbie Barrett]

Pacquiao avoided advanced testing for 4 years.
Golovkin delayed testing for the Lemieux and Monroe fights until a month out.

Don't respect these ****s.

[Motorcity Cobra]

No, that's a logical fallacy. Your conclutions is invalid.

P then Q
Not P then not Q -> logical fallacy.

Denying the antecedent fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

So how should we feel about fighters who don't avoid VADA?

[_Maxi]

So how should we feel about fighters who don't avoid VADA?

Unless they get caught as cheaters, then we should respect them more than those who avoid VADA.

VADA isn't perfect. There's an study that shows that you can microdose EPO and other stuff and still pass VADA testing. But that happens also with other agencies of course. But at least you know they are limited to micro dosing and even then they can be scared and use less dosis just in case.

Also it's not the same if you do VADA for 1 month or if you do VADA all year. I think that's the goal of the WBC and I hope they enforce it.

[_Maxi]

Pacquiao avoided advanced testing for 4 years.
Golovkin delayed testing for the Lemieux and Monroe fights until a month out.

Don't respect these ****s.

Golovkin was tested in the entire camp for the Brook fight.
The first time he used VADA, I think it was against Lemieux, they tested for a little more than one month. Then in the next fight, he was VADA tested almost two months.

Your love Mayweather never used VADA, overpayed USADA, did blood transfusions that he called were Vampire facials for cosmetical reasons and took an IV before a fight, that was informed to the comission 20 days later. Go figure.

[_Maxi]

Danny Jacobs, do VADA.

[Larry the boss]

Pacquiao avoided advanced testing for 4 years.
Golovkin delayed testing for the Lemieux and Monroe fights until a month out.

Don't respect these ****s.

Let the commission do their jobs

[The Big Dunn]

He used VADA for the mohamedi or Pascal fight, I don't remember, and his performance was just the same.
He's also using VADA for his next fight against Ward.

So I respect him, yes, thanks for your concern.

Danny Jacobs, do VADA.

Maxi this is where you lose all credibility. You had no problem with Kov not doing VADA in cfights yet now you have a problem with Jacobs.

Come on dude, you are doing the same stuff Freedom did. you have a valid point but you can't expect people to forget threads like this.

[_Maxi]

Maxi this is where you lose all credibility. You had no problem with Kov not doing VADA in cfights yet now you have a problem with Jacobs.

Come on dude, you are doing the same stuff Freedom did. you have a valid point but you can't expect people to forget threads like this.

Kovalev did VADA. He's doing VADA since one year ago. He didn't do VADA for a fight in 2014? neither Pascal. Even playing field.

[hhs661]

Danny Jacobs, do VADA.

Proud to confirm that @GGGBoxing vs @DanielJacobsTKO is under @Vada_Testing @WBCBoxing #CleanBoxingProgram @TomLoeffler1 #WBC #GREENBELT

— Mauricio Sulaiman (@wbcmoro) January 24, 2017

[WesternChamp]

Let the commission do their jobs

anyone who avoids extra testing is hiding something.......