Proof GGG is the greatest current boxer

[hugh grant]

In what world would g string beat Hagler? Not a chance in hell.

Those 20 defences won't mean a thing vs crap opposition. Sven Ottke made 21 defenses of his title, did he become the greatest super middleweight ever? NO. Reason, no quality opposition.

How good opposition is, is a matter of opinion. Sven had home advantage so you gotta do what GGG just did.

GGG would be favoured to best hagler. Just limke brook would beat khan. Brook hasn't got better resume than jhsan, but would beat him. Even if brook didn't have porter and GGG on his resume he beasbeasts khan

[just the facts]

How good opposition is, is a matter of opinion. Sven had home advantage so you gotta do what GGG just did.

GGG would be favoured to best hagler. Just limke brook would beat khan. Brook hasn't got better resume than jhsan, but would beat him. Even if brook didn't have porter and GGG on his resume he beasbeasts khan

Brook might very well beat Khan, but g string would never, ever, under any circumstances be favored to beat Hagler. NEVER, EVER!

[hugh grant]

Brook might very well beat Khan, but g string would never, ever, under any circumstances be favored to beat Hagler. NEVER, EVER!

Are you sure about this? I this k the standards for GGG so high that he isn't allowed to fight wws or PFP no1s! When GGG wanted too fight Floyd by bloating him to 16o or even 154 it was frowned upon even wan ting too fight Floyd to provee himself.
Its OK for fgloyd to fight pfo no3 jmm by bloating him, or for hacker to fight lightweights though! Gggs causing waves and making everyone nervous.

[just the facts]

Are you sure about this? I this k the standards for GGG so high that he isn't allowed to fight wws or PFP no1s! When GGG wanted too fight Floyd by bloating him to 16o or even 154 it was frowned upon even wan ting too fight Floyd to provee himself.
Its OK for fgloyd to fight pfo no3 jmm by bloating him, or for hacker to fight lightweights though! Gggs causing waves and making everyone nervous.

I can't even understand WTF you're trying to say here. Sober the **** up, then post.

[Deletrious]

Let me address the strength of opposition argument.

2 points, 1.
Golovkin deserves credit for the fighters who clearly avoided him. Sturm was champion for years, and his and GGGs promoter (before he moved to K2) refused to give him a title shot, and Sturm eventually fled up a weight.
Geale relinquished his belt rather than fight GGG, fortunately we got to see that fight later, and obviously it was not competitive.
Sergio Martinez, another champion, and a tremendous champion, avoided fighting GGG when he was mandatory for years. Unfortunately by his last fight, Cotto, he was clearly ready to go.
Cotto was consistent he wanted no part of GGG, even though he refused to give up the middleweight belt.
Canelo was required to fight GGG from the moment he won it. Of course the organization gave him another extension, just for money, and then relinquished the belt.

2. Judgments about how good people are is always a comparison. It's not in a vacuum. So is 160 weak, or is it weak in comparison to GGG, or is it both?
Imagine a division where one fighter is way better than everyone else. Does that definitely mean the division is weak, or definitely mean that fighter is an all time great? Both or anywhere in between is possible.
Also it's fair to say that the division is avoided, sturm moves up, 6ft tall people (Charlos) and 175+ pound people (Canelo) starve their way down to 154.

I also think it's unfair to say GGG hasn't beat anyone, Geale and Lemieux had belts. Murray was probably robbed out of a title twice, and had close decisions in three title fights. Proksa was an exciting up and coming fighter before facing GGG. You can't say say the people he beats are bad merely because he beat them easily.

[icha]

GGG is succeeding in making more fans and haters both. Which means more views for him.

He had less viewers vs brook than he did vs murray last year, at 35yo he isnt improving jackshyt ... hbo should not be happy after all the time and money invested...

[icha]

Let me address the strength of opposition argument.

2 points, 1.
Golovkin deserves credit for the fighters who clearly avoided him. Sturm was champion for years, and his and GGGs promoter (before he moved to K2) refused to give him a title shot, and Sturm eventually fled up a weight.
Geale relinquished his belt rather than fight GGG, fortunately we got to see that fight later, and obviously it was not competitive.
Sergio Martinez, another champion, and a tremendous champion, avoided fighting GGG when he was mandatory for years. Unfortunately by his last fight, Cotto, he was clearly ready to go.
Cotto was consistent he wanted no part of GGG, even though he refused to give up the middleweight belt.
Canelo was required to fight GGG from the moment he won it. Of course the organization gave him another extension, just for money, and then relinquished the belt.

2. Judgments about how good people are is always a comparison. It's not in a vacuum. So is 160 weak, or is it weak in comparison to GGG, or is it both?
Imagine a division where one fighter is way better than everyone else. Does that definitely mean the division is weak, or definitely mean that fighter is an all time great? Both or anywhere in between is possible.
Also it's fair to say that the division is avoided, sturm moves up, 6ft tall people (Charlos) and 175+ pound people (Canelo) starve their way down to 154.

I also think it's unfair to say GGG hasn't beat anyone, Geale and Lemieux had belts. Murray was probably robbed out of a title twice, and had close decisions in three title fights. Proksa was an exciting up and coming fighter before facing GGG. You can't say say the people he beats are bad merely because he beat them easily.

We should also add ggg to laras and wards resume then..

[Jubei]

We should also add ggg to laras and wards resume then..

Lara is already making excuses about money, but we can add Ward to GGG's resume:

http://allboxing.ru/news/20150615-22...a-soboy-smotri

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/6/16...sts-andre-ward

[Derranged]

The GGG threads are getting out of hand now and this thread isn't worth a serious response.

[icha]

Lara is already making excuses about money, but we can add Ward to GGG's resume:

http://allboxing.ru/news/20150615-22...a-soboy-smotri

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/6/16...sts-andre-ward

Tom offered sanchez the fight, and sanchez turn it down... monroe is a bigger name was the excuse... all these are facts that came from gggs camp...