Brook is greater he beat a prime undefeated Shawn Porter in the US
Proof GGG is the greatest current boxer
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Some of Haglers most famous wins were against guys who started in smaller weight classes. I don't care how good Duran was p4p. If Golovkin beat a former lightweight champion, he would be slaughtered for it.
Also Hagler drew and lost to some very average fighters, contenders at best.
I wouldn't exactly say his Middleweight championship run was murderers row either. His two biggest names that he beat Duran and Hearns started 2 or more weight classes below.
Let's not get too nostalgic. His resume is nothing special at all either if we stop using double standards. There was a couple of good wins like Obelmejias and Mugabi. The rest were fairly average and the big names started at WW and LW.Comment
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Your "proof" is mostly your opinion and nothing more. Before being labeled "the greatest current boxer", you have to actually fight quality opposition.Take a scroll down the threads. Chocalito just won a belt in a fourth division and approaches Mayweather's win record, two top 5 p4p fighters are nearing a fight in a month.
What are all the forums about?
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I was kind of on the outside of this with Mayweather, but now I get it, the best fighter is by definition controversial.
What people said now and then:
Mayweather/ggg dodge challenging fights (Pacquiao-margarito/Ward)
He's got flaws in his abilities, may has no power/ggg can be hit.
His fans are blind to the truth.
The next fight is always about to expose may/ggg.
His fan base only like him because of their shared race.
And I'm sure there are more.
The fact that so many people are compelled to form threads with no point but to try and drag ggg down actually proves that boxing is coming to revolve around him the way it did with Mayweather. If you actually felt he was a hype job/ protected fighter, you would ignore him.
There are plenty of fighters like that in the business of boxing, so how can ggg engender 90% of the random hate? Because if you're wrong you'll be on the wrong side of history on one of the greats. So it's not good enough to ignore him, you have to actively attack him.Comment
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Don't you have to beat at least one quality opponent before being called great?
I see where it fits your agenda, but your Hagler facts are terribly distorted. He only fought one former lightweight (Duran), and that lightweight could easily be a top 10 P4P all time and hadn't fought at lightweight in 10 years. On top of that, Hagler cleaned out the 160 division.Comment
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In what world would g string beat Hagler? Not a chance in hell.
Those 20 defences won't mean a thing vs crap opposition. Sven Ottke made 21 defenses of his title, did he become the greatest super middleweight ever? NO. Reason, no quality opposition.Last edited by just the facts; 09-13-2016, 07:43 AM.Comment
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