Brook ruined his career..won't be able to make 147 again...loses to top 154 pounders?

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  • LacedUp
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    #31
    Originally posted by HEND
    idk about that

    Canelo having problems mainly with mover, outside boxers like Lara, May or Trout. Brook ca move but he doesn't really fall into that category

    Williams still has to prove he is on that level but against Charlo he will imo

    and I like Andrade against anybody in 154 maybe except Canelo.
    TRout and Mayweather stood in the pocket vs Canelo so that's a myth.

    Brook can do to Canelo what Mayweather did I feel. Outbox him in range.

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    • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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      #32
      he will give canelo and lara trouble, I don't see him beating andrade

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        #33
        He gave a good account of himself and he faced one of the most murderous punchers p4p in boxing, this loss is not going to hurt him that bad.

        He looked to me that he was able to hold more punishment and didn't look like he was trying to pace himself like he looked when he was at WW.

        154 looks good for him and he has enough skills to compete

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          #34
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          TRout and Mayweather stood in the pocket vs Canelo so that's a myth.

          Brook can do to Canelo what Mayweather did I feel. Outbox him in range.
          Mayweather also moved away plenty of times. We can agree that Canelo has problems with good defensive footwork though but he still managed to closely but beat two such fighters in Lara and Trout.

          Brook is a nice fighter but he is not on Mayweather's level, plus Canelo improved since too, also Canelo would be the stronger guy... I think there's no way that Brook will be so slippery that Canelo wouldn't be able to catch him with his bodyshots and other type of punches.

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            #35
            Originally posted by HEND
            Mayweather also moved away plenty of times. We can agree that Canelo has problems with good defensive footwork though but he still managed to closely but beat two such fighters in Lara and Trout.

            Brook is a nice fighter but he is not on Mayweather's level, plus Canelo improved since too, also Canelo would be the stronger guy... I think there's no way that Brook will be so slippery that Canelo wouldn't be able to catch him with his bodyshots and other type of punches.
            Sure but he didn't pull a lara on him. He just matrixed his ass. Not saying Brook is as good as Mayweather obviously, but I think he could do the same job.

            Only one way to find out!

            Brook should beat Cotto first though.

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            • NEETzsche
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              #36
              as long as his eye recovers nicely and his confidence isn't too shaken i'm sure he will be a force at 154

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                #37
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                He weighed in 168 at the morning of the fight.
                That's water, I have very little interest in 'fight night weight'.

                What you weight in at, and how you look doing so, is what matters. Kell weighed 159 and he was completely full, a few months break and he will easily make 154 and look just as full.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  TRout and Mayweather stood in the pocket vs Canelo so that's a myth.

                  Brook can do to Canelo what Mayweather did I feel. Outbox him in range.
                  Trout stood in the pocket with Canelo and almost got KO'ed. Floyd didn't fully commit or sit down on his punches like Trout did, Floyd was on his tippy toes and then ran like how Oscar fought Trinidad, they both were afraid to stay in the pocket.

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                  • HEND
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Sure but he didn't pull a lara on him. He just matrixed his ass. Not saying Brook is as good as Mayweather obviously, but I think he could do the same job.

                    Only one way to find out!

                    Brook should beat Cotto first though.
                    I would be OK with a Brook vs Cotto fight, sounds interesting

                    I like Brook's chances more there than against Canelo

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
                      That's water, I have very little interest in 'fight night weight'.

                      What you weight in at, and how you look doing so, is what matters. Kell weighed 159 and he was completely full, a few months break and he will easily make 154 and look just as full.
                      No doubt about it.

                      He'll be a beast at 154.

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