Comments Thread For: Cuadras: I Felt That I Did Enough To Beat Chocolatito

[DominiBox]

Face condition is not a legit argument, BUT, it's a disgrace that a great fight like this is again tainted by bs scorecards. 117-111 is a disrespectful card for the fighters and for the fans, and the sad thing here is that where are getting used to it.

Must say I was rooting for Chocolatito, but I saw Cuadras winning rounds 1,5,6,10,11,12.

Lederman's scorecards were biased. You can tell by his comments saying "Cuadras was running too much". Even Kellerman disagreed with Lederman's position.

I had it even by the 6th, and saw Cuadras giving a boxing lesson in the final rounds.

My honest opinion here.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Watch the fight on mute cobra then watch it with the gay ass HBO commentating, you will see why people think Gonzalez won, HBO was so bias its not even funny. But first judge for yourself. I jumped on the PBC bandwagon last night! F HBO!!! Cuadras schooled Gonzalez.

Hold up. I'm watching it now on daily motion with an HBO broadcast. It's in the 7th round. At this point in the fight Gonzalez has a cut on his eyes are swelling. They ask Lederman how his card looks and he has Gonzalez up 5-1. But what he says is ridiculous

'The problem with Cuadras is that he's running so much he can't get his feet set. He can't get his feet set to throw punches to hurt Gonzalez. He's done so much running that it hurts his punching power'

So that cut and swelling on Gonzalez face appeared out of nowhere?

[puga]

Somebody needs to get rid of Harold Ledermans old ass. What a biased *******. Chocolatito was getting his face smashed talking about Gonzalez landing the harder punches.

regarding lederman i agree, it's obvious he cannot play middle ground ...i guess he was expecting a mover to stand still and play into his opponents strength,it was annoying hearing him talk and he's been for a while now

[crold1]

I hope this doesn't turn into some ridiculous controversy. The right guy won. This is just like the people who say Estrada was robbed (seems like the exact same people).

It is. NO ONE at ringside had him winning and most had it around that 8-4 range (because that's what it was). Couple might have had a draw.

[Dinamita 03]

I hope this doesn't turn into some ridiculous controversy. The right guy won. This is just like the people who say Estrada was robbed (seems like the exact same people).

I have never seen anyone claim Gallo was robbed against Gonzalez. The reason people want a rematch is because he fought him at 108, a weight class he never fought before, at a time where he was unknown and gave him a good fight. He went on to become a world champ after that fight at 112.

Cuadras/Gonzalez was legit close fight. I had him winning 7-5 but wouldn't claim robbery.

[Boxfan83]

Hold up. I'm watching it now on daily motion with an HBO broadcast. It's in the 7th round. At this point in the fight Gonzalez has a cut on his eyes are swelling. They ask Lederman how his card looks and he has Gonzalez up 5-1. But what he says is ridiculous

'The problem with Cuadras is that he's running so much he can't get his feet set. He can't get his feet set to throw punches to hurt Gonzalez. He's done so much running that it hurts his punching power'

So that cut and swelling on Gonzalez face appeared out of nowhere?

Well just like any other cat and mouse kinda fight its up to the cat to cut off the mouse. I think Cuadras lateral movement had meaning. You will see Gonzalez misses a lot, IDK where those punch stats came from.

[Boxfan83]

I have never seen anyone claim Gallo was robbed against Gonzalez. The reason people want a rematch is because he fought him at 108, a weight class he never fought before, at a time where he was unknown and gave him a good fight. He went on to become a world champ after that fight at 112.

I want to see it again because Estrada was young and now he has his man strength and grew into his body size. Gonzalez got better but I think estrada improved more.

[baya]

He won the first rd too! It was disgraceful, if Cuadras were black or Afro Cuban it wouldve been called a schooling guaranteed.

you're not liking the outcome in this one.

i'll have to give this one another watch.

[Chato Santana]

Chocolachino says the reason he looks like a Chinaman was because of head butts, . Idk who is more of a scumbag, Chocolachino or Little G.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Well just like any other cat and mouse kinda fight its up to the cat to cut off the mouse. I think Cuadras lateral movement had meaning. You will see Gonzalez misses a lot, IDK where those punch stats came from.

I shouldn't have watched this fight. I was already pissed at these GGG fans suddenly not wanting the Jacobs fight. Now I'm pissed at this robbery. I wanna say 8-4 but i can clearly see 7-5 Cuadras. A draw would be generous to Gonzalez. Gonzalez aggression was ineffective. If his aggression was effective why was Cuadras still able to move as well in the 12th as he did in the 1st? I saw a lot of coming forward swinging and missing from Gonzalez and Cuadras would catch him with two or three punches and back out and reset while Gonzalez is left swinging and missing. Gonzalez is missing so bad he's spinning himself around. I also see Gonzalez being swayed from side to side by shots that's hitting his gloves. He caught Cuadras with some good shots square but they didn't have an effect because Cuadras was still throwing and moving. He didn't slow Cuadras down the whole fight. That's why his aggression shouldn't count as effective aggression. They may look like big shots but they aren't having as much an impact as they seem. He dominated the latter half of the fight. Lederman's scorecard was atrocious. I hear Max and Roy say Gonzalez lands a great body shot but Cuadras doesn't stop moving. I see Cuadras land a body shot and Gonzalez clams up.