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  • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    Once again no reply from LacedUp who acts like he is a boxing fan but is just some weird teenager fangirl.
    ... Says the guy who thinks Zab Judah is a HOFamer

    You literally couldn't make this up.

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    • Originally posted by English Lion View Post
      Amir Khan has a far superior legacy and resume compared to Brook that's not even a debate. The only credible win that Brook has is the victory against Shawn Porter. Khan has multiple wins against fighters who were considered top contenders at the time of him beating them. No matter how hard people like Laced up tries, there is no way you can undermine Khan's victory over Maidana in anyway...Maidana was considerd pound 4 pound one of the most ferocious fighters at that time and Khan beat him. Not to mention the fact Khan won the Olympic silver medal at 17 years of age which in turn lead to huge amount of funding for future British Olympic teams and amateur fighters.

      So when you are talking about legacy and resume, Khan wins hands down, he's just done way too much compared to what Brook has done. What Brook did in the Golovkin fight was highly admirable, the skills he shown were impressive but in the end, Getting your eye socket broken and having your corner wave a white flag does not give you a greater legacy than Khan in boxing.

      If Brook fights Khan today, it's a 50/50 fight. You can argue that Brook is the more skilled and accurate fighter, where as Khan has the faster hand speed and combination punching.
      Right... The first thing Larry Merchant said about Maidana on the HBO podcast was not how crap he looked in previous fights? Must have dreamt that.

      Anyway, that was a good win. As I've stated all along. As good as Porter? Obviously not.

      khan simply has nothing on Brook other than a couple of more wins against the likes of Malignaggi and Kotelnik.

      Imagine if Brook had been given the chance to fight those guys. Holy hell, police would have been asked to come and stop that brutality.

      Khan almost had a draw with Algieri. That's the level he is.

      Algieri wouldn't even be allowed to fight Brook.

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      • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Legacy - Amir Khan

        Resume - Amir Khan

        Ring IQ - Kell Brook

        Skill - Kell Brook

        Right now or at least for the time being, Amir Khan is the greater fighter based on his resume alone. Until last Saturday night, Kell Brook was very much an unknown and untested entity. Gennady Golovkin was the best fighter he has ever fought in his professional career.

        Amir Khan has taken on many more challengers and risks in his career. As opposed to Kell Brook; Who has been largely content on fighting on his own soil while taken the path to least resistance in the process against limited competition.
        Pretty much, although I feel Brook has been unlucky with injuries which led him to wasting a lot of time.

        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        I'm not denying Khan has a better resume, but trying to pass off his average resume as anything special is just ridiculous. He beat Kotelnik and Judah for the belts. Some of the worst champions we've seen. He didn't beat the two guys that actually mattered at the time.

        What exactly did Judah go on to do again?? Other than lose every subsequent fight he had He was an absolute shell of his former self. And his "world title"? Who gives a flying *** - It was a vacant title win over Kaizer Mabutu ffs.

        I have a very logical dislike for Khan since he fights no one we want him to fight. Since Garcia no one has asked for any of the fights he's had.

        Khan has better combinations than Brook? Hahahahahaha. My God I've heard it all. Khan's amateur version of 1-2-1-2-1-2 is nothing close to Brook's actual combinations! It has absolutely nothing on Brook.

        Brook is clearly greater as 70%+ has voted in this thread.

        Khan has one world title more than Brook which he won against Zab Judah. That's the extent of "more world titles" haha. Absolutely ridiculous.

        Add to that he's been knocked out at all levels.

        Brook simply classes above, which is why Khan's balls went hiding years ago and we haven't seen them since.
        You're conceding Khan has a better resume. You don't think it's great. Cane you name 5 fighters under 30 who have a better resume than Khan?

        Now, since you have conceded one point, let's move onto my other point. Khan has more accomplishments and wins over more current, future and past world champs. Would that be correct?

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        • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
          Now, since you have conceded one point, let's move onto my other point. Khan has more accomplishments and wins over more current, future and past world champs. Would that be correct?
          I have not conceded, I have agreed that Khan has a better resume all along It's just not good at all.

          His wins count:

          Alexander
          Judah (34 years old)
          Malignaggi (lol)
          Maidana
          Kotelnik

          Is this really something to big up?

          I can name plenty of fighters who have better resumes

          - Danny Garcia
          - Canelo
          - Terence Crawford
          - Chocolatito
          - Frampton
          - Degale
          - Fury
          - Keith Thurman

          .. Take your pick

          Khan has more wins over former champions and 1 more win over current champions. So ***ing what? You can count MAB, Malignaggi, Alexander, Collazo and Diaz in those wins. Does that mean they were any good? No.

          Similarly to Senchenko, Ndou etc. Does that mean they were any good? No it didn't.

          Khan didn't fight Collazo in 2005 or Alexander in 2009 or MAB in 2000. He fought them when they were years and sometimes decades past their prime.
          Last edited by LacedUp; 09-13-2016, 09:31 AM.

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          • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            I have not conceded, I have agreed that Khan has a better resume all along It's just not good at all.

            His wins count:

            Alexander
            Judah (34 years old)
            Malignaggi (lol)
            Maidana
            Kotelnik

            Is this really something to big up?

            I can name plenty of fighters who have better resumes

            - Danny Garcia
            - Canelo
            - Terence Crawford
            - Chocolatito
            - Frampton
            - Degale
            - Fury
            - Keith Thurman

            .. Take your pick
            Like I said, you now say KHan has a better resume but you still claim it's rubbish. Then you put up names like Keith and DeGale who have 1 or maybe 2 top class wins. What are you smoking? And anyway, this is a discussion strictly of between Khan and Brook. So lets stick to that. DOnt use those distracting tactics on me, it doesnt work.

            Point is, Khan has a better resume and FAR superior to Brook, whose only top win is Porter. Khan has 5-6 better wins at a younger age than Brook does.

            Now, going back to what I asked last post, who has the better achievements?
            Who has beaten more world title holders, past, current or future?
            Who has more world title fights?
            Who has more world title wins?

            Lets stay on track now.

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            • Neither fighter is great.

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              • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                Like I said, you now say KHan has a better resume but you still claim it's rubbish. Then you put up names like Keith and DeGale who have 1 or maybe 2 top class wins. What are you smoking? And anyway, this is a discussion strictly of between Khan and Brook. So lets stick to that. DOnt use those distracting tactics on me, it doesnt work.

                Point is, Khan has a better resume and FAR superior to Brook, whose only top win is Porter. Khan has 5-6 better wins at a younger age than Brook does.

                Now, going back to what I asked last post, who has the better achievements?
                Who has beaten more world title holders, past, current or future?
                Who has more world title fights?
                Who has more world title wins?

                Lets stay on track now.
                Keith Thurman's resume craps on Khan's - Who just has 1 "top" win

                Keith thurman has Zaveck, undefeated Chaves, Guerrero, Bundu (the same guy Spence gets a lot of praise for beating) and Shawn Porter on his resume. That's easily better than the likes of Malignaggi and Zab Judah.

                Degale has beaten Andre Dirrell and Lucian Bute. Both top class fighters and better than anyone Khan has beaten his whole life.

                You ask me to name 5 fighters that has a better resume, I did. You can't come back with anything, say it's a khan-brook discussion and I'm distracting? You literally couldn't make this up Jesus dude.

                His resume is slightly superior to Brook, which is a testament to how average both of their resumes are, Brook's is just worse because he hasn't been pushed the same way Khan has + he's way better.

                Go look through Khan's resume and tell me with no bs who's a genuine top class world level win against a fighter in his prime like when Brook beat Porter. There's no one. not one single one.

                Who gives a crap who has more world title fights when they were against Zab Judah and McCloskey He lost the ones that mattered.

                He's a chinny guy who fights like an amateur. Brook is rightfully known as the better of the two. If Khan wants to change that he can fight brook.

                if not, he'll be known as a guy who crapped his pants.

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                • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  This is not the question. Who is greater, i.e. who has the better, more relevant boxing career and achieved more in their respective careers?
                  Khan probably has the better legacy as of right now. But hes not the better skilled fighter.

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                  • Originally posted by RussTBE View Post
                    Khan probably has the better legacy as of right now. But hes not the better skilled fighter.
                    I dunno about the latter 100% but I tend to agree. NOt so much in terms of skill but in terms of Brooks physicality. If the two were to fight at 147 tomorrow, I feel Brook would win. But the former is right now (until the two fight) much more pertinent.

                    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                    Keith Thurman's resume craps on Khan's - Who just has 1 "top" win
                    Ok, so you refuse to answer the questions I put forward and continue to try and derail the discussion with ******ity. I end it here.

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                    • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      I dunno about the latter 100% but I tend to agree. NOt so much in terms of skill but in terms of Brooks physicality. If the two were to fight at 147 tomorrow, I feel Brook would win. But the former is right now (until the two fight) much more pertinent.



                      Ok, so you refuse to answer the questions I put forward and continue to try and derail the discussion with ******ity. I end it here.
                      He's too far up Brook bunghole to see the light, funny thing is he was once far up Khan's bunghole too, dude is definitely a male hoe.

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