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  • Originally posted by Don Pichardo View Post
    Not really. Canelo just has done a better job of managing his output during his fights. Prime exmample is the cotto fight. Canelo didn't do that much in the first six and 7 he turned it up through 12. It appeared that his conditioning improved but to me it appeared to be an illusion. It was just his strategy
    That's how he always fights though. He doesn't throw a ton of punches until he has someone on the ropes. That little bit you say he did would've had him gassed a few years ago like the Trout fight.

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    • It took fighting Brook for the MW division to gain confidence. Thank goodness lol

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      • All the credit you morons gave brook for moving up goes down the ****ter. Why move up if your corner throws the towel in that quick? It's because he was in over his head. You don't get credit for making dumb ass fights. He shouldn't have been in there. And since he was, at least let him go out with some sort of dignity. Him and his team wasted our time by wimping out so quick. So much for the credit you morons gave him for moving up.

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        • Originally posted by ИATAS
          That was a brutal fight.

          Golovkin really has two versions of himself - the one where he doesn't respect his opponent and relentlessly tries to destroy his opponent quickly, like tonight, and there is the version where he respects his opponent like how he fought Lemeuix or Stevens where he uses his jab, fights smart and is patient with his work. It's all about the opponent. Put him in the ring with a Jacobs or Canelo, we'll get the David Lemeuix version, put him in there with a physically out matched guy, we'll see a street fight.
          That's what I'm thinking too.

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          • Triple G does many subtle things an average fan is not even aware of ...takes something more than just a little love tap to damage an eye socket he did well vs a skilled fighter ...bottom line I'm sure this will put any thought about vs Fraudverez until 2018...

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            • Originally posted by hitking View Post
              I think GGG can be beaten based on the fact that he sux defensively. And relies solely on fighters not being able to handle his strength and power. Which is likely the main reason why he doesn't wanna move up. Because the second he gets in the ring with someone that he can't overwhelm, that can actually fighr, he's done. If Brook weren't a welterweight, he would have loss tonight.
              I'm pretty sure if Brook was a middleweight, Golovkin would have fought differently. The way he fought this time wasn't like how he fought against Lemieux, for example. In that fight, he was more patient with his boxing and slowly broke him down. In this case, he looked like he was just looking for that one-hit KO and seeing how he does like put a big show for the fans (and likely give the other boxers more confidence to get in the ring with him), I'm pretty certain that was intentional.

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              • Finally saw!

                Like i thought it is a lose lose for GGG.

                Credit to Brook, embarrassed for GGG and his fans

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                • Originally posted by StefanTosic View Post
                  That's what I'm thinking too.
                  It's blatantly obvious to anyone not determined to hate on Golovkin. I hate this fight, but let's get real here. Anyone basing their predictions about Golovkin vs. Alvarez, Jacobs, or anyone else that's an actual threat on the Brook fight is in for a rude awakening.

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                  • Originally posted by Don Pichardo View Post
                    Dude his corner threw in towel what in the helll are you talking about.
                    I believe they did that to save face of their fighter , Kell didn't want none after the fourth

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                    • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      So you don't want to see GGG-Floyd, the biggest fight in the sport, because you're worried Floyd would make him miss too much, dodge too many punches, and win?
                      I don't want to see Mayweather/Golovkin (let's respect the A-side) because I don't want to see people like Spoon and juggernaut and others up on here complaining about Mayweather running and hugging and not throwing punches etc.

                      I don't want to see the same complaints of people who just want Mayweather to throw caution to the wind, or just want to see him lose.

                      I don't want to see people who can't appreciate the defensive brilliance and improperly call it "running" and being "scared" when in reality, the man is exposing the limitations of his opponents.

                      That's why I don't want to see it.

                      I don't care (nor do I believe) it is the biggest fight in the sport. Fans don't appreciate TBE, so IMO they don't deserve to see him fight anymore. Let him stay retired and hopefully promote and train other fighters to keep the sport going.


                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      I assume you didn't want to see Floyd-Canelo then either?
                      When that fight was announced, I wanted to see it but that was at a time people were still at least half appreciating TBE. I already knew it would be a one-sided schooling though.


                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      I assume you've never enjoyed any Floyd Mayweather fight lol? Seeing as how that's how every one of his fights go. This seems like a tell on your part that you don't really believe what you're saying. If you really believed this, and you're a Floyd fan, then you would want to see it, just like every other Floyd fight where his "matrix dodging of punches" and a wide decision hasn't stopped his demo from rooting for him.
                      False assumption. Being a Floyd fan is exactly why I don't want to see these fights - I don't want to see complaints of salty peeps who don't appreciate TBE. Let them have their Ali/Vargas-ish slugfests.

                      You got me all twisted son. I've watched every Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight there has been and I'm one of a dying breed who really understands that his retirement has effectively killed the business of boxing. Period. But having him active hurts it even more because today's fans don't appreciate a defensive fighter. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

                      If these were really "fans", they would appreciate Floyd no matter who he fights. Instead, they get pissy because he doesn't fight the way they think he should fight and exposes everyone he's up against. In reality, everyone has a chance to upset even if we think they're bums.



                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      Floyd never fought a 147 equivalent of GGG his whole career let alone a 154 or 160.
                      BS. De La Hoya, Corley, Burton, all fought Money the exact same way Golovkin would, minus the power. We saw who won those fights.

                      People think GGG is some overskilled demon. He's not. He has power, he has cutoff ability, he has some ring intelligence. That's fine, but he's not fast. Accurate, larger, not fast. He clams up against active fighters and he sucks in the middle of the ring. He's only dominant when your back is on those ropes. He doesn't move his head and he's squared up for uppercuts constantly.

                      Guess what other fighter is known for being dominant when your back is on the ropes?

                      Manny Pacquiao. Who got schooled by TBE. Why? Because Mayweather's defense was too much for Pac to handle. But these casuals don't appreciate that style.

                      Mayweather/Golovkin would largely be a repeat of Mayweather/Pacquaio with a few more connects on TBE, but the outcome would be the same - a boring, lopsided UD for Floyd and a bunch of booing, disrespectful, unappreciative "fans" who are salty that Floyd didn't take risks to "prove" something to them. Who think the fight was "boring" because Floyd threw a low punch count. When in reality it was "boring" because Golovkin is so one-dimensional and can't adapt to crack the MayVinci Code.

                      You'd have other saltiness with "paid off judges", "illegal IV", "ref in the pocket", "Golovkin was sick", "Golovkin was drained", etc. All sorts of excuses.

                      No, I don't want to see that.

                      I'd rather see Spence beat Brook for his title, then Floyd beat Spence to take the only belt he didn't unify for 50-0 (thus helping to elevate Errol Spence's marketability) than to see him face a guy he'd embarrass over 12.
                      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 09-11-2016, 12:23 PM.

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