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  • hugh grant
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    #11
    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
    This won't come down to skills. Brook is simply not used to fighting against power punchers like Golovkin. He will crumble.
    He spared with froch so they are well prepared. Brook is used to it. If he gets koed by GGG its becasuse nobody is used to it.

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      #12
      Yea. It's disgusting how many ignorant fans here say things like, "Ward is overrated, his best win is Froch." (I've seen several people here say that here recently. Mind-blowing levels of ******ity.

      I do get hyped about certain fighters before they prove themselves (I did that about Crawford) but I'm a huge believer in just being patient and waiting for a fighter to prove himself. Make your fandom and faith known, but don't get all pissed off at people who aren't on your bandwagon and still want to see him beat legit comp.

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      • TheBoxingXpert
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        #13
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        Yea. It's disgusting how many ignorant fans here say things like, "Ward is overrated, his best win is Froch." (I've seen several people here say that here recently. Mind-blowing levels of ******ity.

        I do get hyped about certain fighters before they prove themselves (I did that about Crawford) but I'm a huge believer in just being patient and waiting for a fighter to prove himself. Make your fandom and faith known, but don't get all pissed off at people who aren't on your bandwagon and still want to see him beat legit comp.
        If Golovkin wants a resume on par with the resume of Froch, then he will need to beat all of these: Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs, Lara and at least 1 168lbs champion. Until then, Golovkin is not even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Froch

        Golovkin DOES look unusually awesome when beating all his bum opponents. It makes one curious about how he would do against a good opponent.

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          #14
          Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
          We got guys like Lomachenko, whose best win is Russel Jr. and who lost to Salido, while having done nothing else, except blatantly ducking Walters. Now he's satisfied fighting bums. He gets hyped like he's the greatest technician of all time. Source:
          So in the wake of Nicholas Walters losing his WBA featherweight title on the scales last Saturday before facing Miguel Marriaga (who Walters out-pointed at the Theater of Madison Square Garden), is there any chance that the highly anticipated clash between he and WBO featherweight titlist, Vasyl Lomachenko, still takes place in the fall? "For what?" scoffed Egis Klimas, the manager for Lomachenko.


          We got guys like Golovkin who, while certainly looking impressive, has only fought bums and refused to fight Ward, which was his big chance to prove himself. Looking impressive is simply not enough, you have to look impressive against other guys who are also impressive. Not ***** like Daniel Geale, lol.

          Yet, people hate on guys like Ward, Crawford, Fury and Froch, who have all proven themselves through hard fights against tough opponents. A new guy comes and starts beating bums and ducking dangerous fights and suddenly, the new guy is ranked higher than the proven warriors? WTF is wrong with boxing fans?
          #blacklivesmatter

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            #15
            Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
            Golovkin DOES look unusually awesome when beating all his bum opponents. It makes one curious about how he would do against a good opponent.
            That's my sentiment about the guy and why I'm so frustrated w/ him.
            It's like watching James Spader on Blacklist. Great actor surrounded by hacks.

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              #16
              Same goes for Rigondeaux then. How the hell is he ranked so high when his biggest win is Donaire?

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheCell8
                Same goes for Rigondeaux then. How the hell is he ranked so high when his biggest win is Donaire?
                Donaire was a good win, but I agree, Rigo is too overrated. He needs to prove himself some more instead of fighting nobodies.

                Rigo's chin is also suspect. Everyone and their grandmas are knocking him down.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bigdramashow
                  brooks a massive welterweight and golovkins a small middleweight, will come down to skill as to who wins, not size
                  What a load of crap, the best middleweight in the world is supposed to crush the 3rd or 4th best welterweight and that is what's going to happen.

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                    #19
                    You aren't a boxing expert. You are just a very bias fan who I have to assume is a black Englishman judging by your extreme bias in favor of black boxers and English boxers and against boxers who aren't either English or black. GGG is the best middleweight in the world. He doesn't have to beat 175 pound boxers to prove himself to you. He never refused to fight Ward because Ward never made him a serious legal written offer to fight he could respond to. Ward just made a verbal challenge through the media at a time when GGG had a contracted fight coming up in a few weeks. Right after GGG beat Lemieux Ward was injured and out of action for about a year and he was no longer fighting at 168 anyway. You praise black boxers Ward and Walters and Englishmen Fury and Froch while you trash two excellent non black, non English fighters, GGG and Loma. Real boxing experts and not self proclaimed ones have both GGG and Loma on their top 10 best pound for pound boxers in the world. GGG is often ranked number 1 in the world pound for pound and he is almost never ranked lower than 3rd. I hope you enjoy GGG destroying your countryman Brook tomorrow.

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                    • TheBoxingXpert
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boliodogs
                      You aren't a boxing expert. You are just a very bias fan who I have to assume is a black Englishman judging by your extreme bias in favor of black boxers and English boxers and against boxers who aren't either English or black. GGG is the best middleweight in the world. He doesn't have to beat 175 pound boxers to prove himself to you. He never refused to fight Ward because Ward never made him a serious legal written offer to fight he could respond to. Ward just made a verbal challenge through the media at a time when GGG had a contracted fight coming up in a few weeks. Right after GGG beat Lemieux Ward was injured and out of action for about a year and he was no longer fighting at 168 anyway. You praise black boxers Ward and Walters and Englishmen Fury and Froch while you trash two excellent non black, non English fighters, GGG and Loma. Real boxing experts and not self proclaimed ones have both GGG and Loma on their top 10 best pound for pound boxers in the world. GGG is often ranked number 1 in the world pound for pound and he is almost never ranked lower than 3rd. I hope you enjoy GGG destroying your countryman Brook tomorrow.
                      So you think I have some preference for English boxers? Last time I checked, Walters and Ward weren't English.

                      So you think i have some preference for black boxers? Last time I checked, Froch and Fury weren't black.

                      Your theory contradicts itself.

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