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  • TheBoxingXpert
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    Overrating and underrating

    We got guys like Lomachenko, whose best win is Russel Jr. and who lost to Salido, while having done nothing else, except blatantly ducking Walters. Now he's satisfied fighting bums. He gets hyped like he's the greatest technician of all time. Source:
    So in the wake of Nicholas Walters losing his WBA featherweight title on the scales last Saturday before facing Miguel Marriaga (who Walters out-pointed at the Theater of Madison Square Garden), is there any chance that the highly anticipated clash between he and WBO featherweight titlist, Vasyl Lomachenko, still takes place in the fall? "For what?" scoffed Egis Klimas, the manager for Lomachenko.


    We got guys like Golovkin who, while certainly looking impressive, has only fought bums and refused to fight Ward, which was his big chance to prove himself. Looking impressive is simply not enough, you have to look impressive against other guys who are also impressive. Not ***** like Daniel Geale, lol.

    Yet, people hate on guys like Ward, Crawford, Fury and Froch, who have all proven themselves through hard fights against tough opponents. A new guy comes and starts beating bums and ducking dangerous fights and suddenly, the new guy is ranked higher than the proven warriors? WTF is wrong with boxing fans?
  • BitPlayer
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    It always bugs me how little emphisis people put on actually having beaten good opponents, then wondering why no one wants to fight good opponents.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      loma beating russell jr in the style he did was a very good win though, know a lot of people tipped russell to win. The hype with him is because hes one of best amateurs ever and his skill level is unreal. We'll get to see tomorrow how golovkin does against someone who isnt a 'bum' skill wise

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      • TheBoxingXpert
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        Originally posted by BitPlayer
        It always bugs me how little emphisis people put on actually having beaten good opponents, then wondering why no one wants to fight good opponents.
        Exactly. Boxing fans are ******ed.

        Let's say a new Russian/Eastern European fighter, Ivan Brakovic or whatever, starts fighting and looks good in knocking out a lot of bums, he will get respect and people will say "he can beat Froch, just look at him while he's fighting!", lol.

        Wilder's signature win, Stiverne, is better than any win on Golovkin's record and even if one disagrees with that, Wilder was travelling all the way to Russia to fight Povetkin, who is so much better than any Golovkin-opponent that it can't even be debated. We got two guys who are mainly knocking out a lot of bums, with Wilder having the better signature win, the better attempt at getting a better signature win AND a higher KO percentage. Yet, people bash Wilder and love Golovkin? Except for racism, then I simply see no logic behind it.

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        • TheBoxingXpert
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          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          loma beating russell jr in the style he did was a very good win though, know a lot of people tipped russell to win. The hype with him is because hes one of best amateurs ever and his skill level is unreal. We'll get to see tomorrow how golovkin does against someone who isnt a 'bum' skill wise
          Brook, at 160lbs, is a bum. He got nothing to do there. Brook is kinda like Canelo. A drained guy who does good against smaller opponents, but won't last against guys his own size.

          The struggle against Shawn Porter says enough. Brook will crumble early in the fight.

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          • hugh grant
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            GGG gets a pass, cos we know he wants nelo, bjs and Jacobs by they don't want to be a statistic of being another ko loss victim of GGG. GGG is above criticism.

            GGG don't need to move up until guys in his division step up to plate.
            Floyd on the other hand was famous for dodging toughest fights in his own division.

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              #7
              Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
              Brook, at 160lbs, is a bum. He got nothing to do there. Brook is kinda like Canelo. A drained guy who does good against smaller opponents, but won't last against guys his own size.

              The struggle against Shawn Porter says enough. Brook will crumble early in the fight.
              Who are these guys taht are Brook's size? Thurman, Spence and Porter are all big welterweights just like Brook.
              Thurman, Spence fought at 152 pounds in amateurs and Porter fought at 165pounds

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                #8
                Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
                Brook, at 160lbs, is a bum. He got nothing to do there. Brook is kinda like Canelo. A drained guy who does good against smaller opponents, but won't last against guys his own size.

                The struggle against Shawn Porter says enough. Brook will crumble early in the fight.
                brooks a massive welterweight and golovkins a small middleweight, will come down to skill as to who wins, not size

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                • TheBoxingXpert
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                  Originally posted by bigdramashow
                  brooks a massive welterweight and golovkins a small middleweight, will come down to skill as to who wins, not size
                  This won't come down to skills. Brook is simply not used to fighting against power punchers like Golovkin. He will crumble.

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                  • ukbox
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                    When pro fighters highly rate other fighters then take note. These highly rated fighters have grown up in the gym, they've been involved in the sport longer than most fans have been following the sport

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