People are underrating Fury's skills

[Tom Cruise]

Also Tom I'd be willing to bet my house on Fury having much better stamina than AJ. I can just see AJ as a gasser waiting to happen. Somebody's just got to force a pace, make him miss and catch him for a few rounds. Who knows if Fury's stamina is down to PEDS though. We'll have to wait as the case isn't settled on that.

Stamina is a huge question over AJ i agree.

Hes looked pretty good through 7 rnds though.

His footwork too, though, if he uses his feet right (much like Louis did) he wont need to quickest feet. His chin and defence have also yet to be really tested.

Until he fights a top guy and beats them I would pick Fury tbh. But i think Joshua is developing into the type of fighter who would beat Fury. I see him landing these check left hooks and pull counter rights, baiting with the jab etc etc. He's looking really good imo and every fight you see new skills and techniques that he has clearly been practicing in the gym, techniques that we typically dont see from modern super heavys

[juggernaut666]

You call Louis stationary but he almost always in position to land big shots. Only Conn really took that away from him for significant periods and he was KO'd twice.

Fury has only had one significant fight against a guy whose style was absolutely nailed on perfect for him, and he still hardly set the world alight with the performance. Lets see how he looks going forward, though im not sold at all on the likes of Wilder, Parker or Joshua yet if we are talking all time talent.

Joshua looks the best to me, at least, he has the biggest room to improve, and most potential to do so. I think if Joshua can get at least a fight or two vs top 10 opp before fighting Fury then he probably beats him, and i suspect on a ko too.

Louis was in position bc most of his opposition stood directly in front of him ,look what Conn was able to do just by moving around . If Louis fought Fury 5 times he probably loses 5 times with exception of maybe getting 1 win if Louis lands on a over confidant Fury but Louis has never knocked out anyone like Fury who is 250 plus 6'9 (i feel i have to keep reminding ) and has an actual jab ,Fury is not a slow moving clumsy guy of the Louis era .

Joshua is a 6'6 250 pound aggressive punching machine who fights with more ripping shots on the inside or outside than Louis ever did they are not comparable ..... Joshua k.os Fury !

[juggernaut666]

The worst thing about all this speculation is that Tyson is seemingly so unstable that he could come out and be a completely different person in his next fight. He may not be interested anymore or who knows what. I can't say he'll have a massively long reign as champ because I don't know if his head's in it.

Come on now ,we BOTH know when Wlad wins that will be the excuse ..... the punch count will tell the story if they both showed up .

[Tom Cruise]

Louis was in position bc most of his opposition stood directly in front of him ,look what Conn was able to do just by moving around . If Louis fought Fury 5 times he probably loses 5 times with exception of maybe getting 1 win if Louis lands on a over confidant Fury but Louis has never knocked out anyone like Fury who is 250 plus 6'9 (i feel i have to keep reminding ) and has an actual jab ,Fury is not a slow moving clumsy guy of the Louis era .

Joshua is a 6'6 250 pound aggressive punching machine who fights with more ripping shots on the inside or outside than Louis ever did they are not comparable ..... Joshua k.os Fury !

By Louis' era's standards Fury is pretty stationary to be honest. He didnt have the footwork, agility or coordination of someone like Conn thats for sure (someone who was ko'd twice, I feel i have to keep reminding).

His height is an advantage, but for real. Watch the Wlad fight back and keep an eye on Fury when he tries to throw punches (especially power punches) he is all over the place. So so open its unreal. This was Fury at his most cautious, most motivated, and he still has these huge fundamental flaws in his game. Im sorry but Louis is seeing these flaws. He's seeing them quickly, and he's working out how to capitalize.

Id be very surprised if Fury made the final bell

[Madison Boxing]

fury is a much better fighter than given credit for by most

[juggernaut666]

By Louis' era's standards Fury is pretty stationary to be honest. He didnt have the footwork, agility or coordination of someone like Conn thats for sure (someone who was ko'd twice, I feel i have to keep reminding).

His height is an advantage, but for real. Watch the Wlad fight back and keep an eye on Fury when he tries to throw punches (especially power punches) he is all over the place. So so open its unreal. This was Fury at his most cautious, most motivated, and he still has these huge fundamental flaws in his game. Im sorry but Louis is seeing these flaws. He's seeing them quickly, and he's working out how to capitalize.

Id be very surprised if Fury made the final bell

lol .....Fury would run circles around those slow footed take a step back and forward guys . They would literally probably have to make a 200 pound and over class if Fury was alive then . and had the same skills he does now .

My breakdown pretty much addresses anything you have said . Louis flaws ....open to over hand rights, slow ponderous foot work ,reallies on parrying (how good would he actually his style be with modern gloves ? ) kept his hands slightly wast high , needed opposition to be still to measure them , never was hit by a 250 pounder repeadily and therefore no one know exactly what would happen considered he was put down by weaker sloppier guys..... these are all taken into account !

[juggernaut666]

We'll have to wait and see. I can't see Fury losing tbh.

If Fury defeats Wlad i will move hm up on my H2Hl list ,that to me is a big if.

[BitPlayer]

It's funny how many people point to his fight with Pajkic, when he was 23, or against Cunningham when he 24 and both of which he didn't have Peter Fury and fought both in a different style to what he's done in recently.

[juggernaut666]

It's funny how many people point to his fight with Pajkic, when he was 23, or against Cunningham when he 24 and both of which he didn't have Peter Fury and fought both in a different style to what he's done in recently.

Not only that those are usually knock out punches to most.....I see no evidence Fury has a weak chin but know Wlad has more than enough power to k.o anyone who ever boxed. Chances of the guys I picked to lose to fury don't k.o him with one punch so they would have to out box him or hit him enough ,I don't see it.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Louis was in position bc most of his opposition stood directly in front of him ,look what Conn was able to do just by moving around . If Louis fought Fury 5 times he probably loses 5 times with exception of maybe getting 1 win if Louis lands on a over confidant Fury but Louis has never knocked out anyone like Fury who is 250 plus 6'9 (i feel i have to keep reminding ) and has an actual jab ,Fury is not a slow moving clumsy guy of the Louis era .

Joshua is a 6'6 250 pound aggressive punching machine who fights with more ripping shots on the inside or outside than Louis ever did they are not comparable ..... Joshua k.os Fury !

You, my friend, just wrote such a factually correct post that it could have been written by me