People are underrating Fury's skills

[TheBoxingXpert]

People are underrating Fury's skills. In his last 3 fights, against Hammer, Chisora and Wladimir, he looked untouchable. His unique combination of size, speed and defensive skills are unlike anything I've ever seen at heavyweight.

Chisora gave Pulev hell recently and Wladimir, while old, got taught a straight boxing lesson. People hate on Fury being "boring" (wtf?), but people who says he got no skills got no knowledge about boxing. Fury's skills are amazing.

His chin may not be amazing, his punching power may not be amazing, but that combination of size, speed and skills would make him a dangerous opponent for any opponent in any era.

Small guys like Joe Louis, who struggled with guys like Jersey Joe Walcott and lost to Schmelling, wouldn't be able to do anything to Fury's defense.

[Tom Cruise]

Underrated by some, overrated by some.

He is very skillful for his size. He has a good instinct for the sport in terms of distance and positioning.

However he often leaves himself wide open when throwing his own punches, and a half decent counter puncher, or pressure fighter, would find his chin no problems. Ofc there really arent any half decent counter punchers around these days (I think Joshua is developing a good counter game, but its not there yet), and I cant remember the last good pressure fighter there was at HW.

Joe Louis would have no problems finding Fury's chin imo. And if Cunningham has the power to KD Fury, then I would bet Louis would send him into the next dimension

[mlac]

People are underrating Fury's skills. In his last 3 fights, against Hammer, Chisora and Wladimir, he looked untouchable. His unique combination of size, speed and defensive skills are unlike anything I've ever seen at heavyweight.

Chisora gave Pulev hell recently and Wladimir, while old, got taught a straight boxing lesson. People hate on Fury being "boring" (wtf?), but people who says he got no skills got no knowledge about boxing. Fury's skills are amazing.

His chin may not be amazing, his punching power may not be amazing, but that combination of size, speed and skills would make him a dangerous opponent for any opponent in any era.

Small guys like Joe Louis, who struggled with guys like Jersey Joe Walcott and lost to Schmelling, wouldn't be able to do anything to Fury's defense.

2 bum's and a 40 year old gunshy old man.

AMaaaaazing

[*TonyMontana*]

Amazing skill.....

[Ray Corso]

You talk about Scmelling and Walcott as if they were fringe competitors.
That alone tells me your just a Fury Fanboy!
He lost to Max when he was coming up in contention. You really need to watch that fight so you can get an understanding of willingness and desire! Louis took tremendous punishment from Max and still kept trying to succeed. His heart was huge and he learned Max's lesson.

What happe3ns to these "oversized" men once a real fighter slips inside them?
What happens against a puncher who WILL punch once they get close?
We know Wlad was taught to tie up because he has no skills inside, Fury will be chopped meat with a real puncher because he has NO Power! He pronates nothing and he's an arm puncher. If Wlad gives everything he has for 5 solid rounds Fury will be gone unless Wlads chin is even worse than I think it is!

There is nothing Fury does thats better than Louis, NOTHING! He's tall!

Ray

[juggernaut666]

Furys size trumps his skills but his size is real so you have to include it into the equation when determining how difficult it is to defeat him . Its really not who he can beat but who can beat him and theres not many .

Some top past guys compared to Fury .........

1 / Muhammed Ali ..... needed the jab to set up everything and Fury fights in similar manner , people wont like it but lets be real . Fury has an 85 inch reach and is 6'9 ,Ali is not a power puncher either so thats a MAJOR strike with someone like Fury bc hes constantly movingand certainly wont be throwing haye maker rights under Fury bc he didnt punch like that . Ali doesnt fight good going forward ,and Fury would fustrate him to no end dictating how the fight is fought . Fury switches to southpaw also ,if Ali struggled with 6'1 190 Mildenberger who he states was his toughest fight in the 60's hes goinfg to struggle here with a southpaw whos twice as big and fast . Fury comfortably out boxes Ali and wins at least 85 % of the time .

2/ Joe Louis ........ No slow footed guy under 6'3 is going to get to Fury unless he stands flat footed and stationary . Louis would not be able to time Fury bc Fury does not fight in patterns or stay directly in front of you like those past timers who were much easily hit and certainly werent giants ,guys like 5'9 Gallento were able to knock Louis down and many guys didnt utilise a jab for the most part ,guys like Godoy and Conn did and gave Louis fits , Godoy actually won the first fight as did Walcott and Conn showed potentially what a bigger fighter would have done with good fundamentals bc Louis outsized Conn by about 30 pounds . Louis was also knocked out of the ring by Buddy Baer who didnt know what jab was and hes physically the closest thing to a big guy that Louis fought resembling Fury . I give Fury about a 90% chance of winning .

3 / Joe Frazier ........ Simple just watch the Mathis fight and Frazier losing by rnd 7 to the much larger boxer at 6'4 , A better in shape Fury who is not as skilled as Mathis still makes it nearly impossible for Frazier to hit him 6'9 vs 5'11 guy who needed to grind you down and Fury would put all his weight on the 205 Frazier ,i think he would k.o Frazier bc Frazier is not the hardest guy to hit and would catch him with one of those sneaky upper cuts ,while Frazier would missby miles as he plants his feet punching upward . Fury has about a 95 % chance winning this fight .


4/ Larry Holmes .... Similar to the Ali fight with the exception Holmes is harder to hit cleany as most will disagree with ,its true and he had a sharper stiffer accurate jab than Ali had so that in itself gives Holmes a better shot here . This is actually an interesting fight between ,both guys hit about the same , Holmes has more snap and Fury has more looks and is more fluid to the stiff up right Holmes . I believe Fury can confuse Holmes enough to get a decision win and still dictate distance with the crafty Holmes . Fury has a 80% chance winning this fight .

5/ Evander Holyfield ........ A decent puncer with speed and accuracy and is great at counter punching defensively or offensively certainly has a chance to get at Fury ,IF he doesnt get flustered with Fury jabs and long jabs seem to have give some difficulty in the past . Holyfield has the right footwork as well and at his best is a danger to anyone . Holyfield is by far the better fighter here with talent Fury cant duplicate but his inconsistencies from the Bowe fights to the Lewis ones those fights in between leave me to believe Fury will beat out the much smaller Holyfield more than not . Fury has a 65 % chance to win.

Fighters who i would pick to beat Fury in no order and without going into detail jus5t bc they have the power ,skill, attributes and some style to defeat him below .



Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitchko
Wlad Klitchko
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Anthony Joshua


Fury is hard to gauge bc he really hasnt fought anyone (No im not counting a dead Wlad until the rematch ) but one should still see his skills and understand the guy is no walk over if you know your boxing . Even if he loses to Wlad would not effect what i posted , if he loses it will be to power punchers who most likely are over or around 240 pounds , i dont really see any pure boxer beating him , you need to reach him and hit him hard thats how you beat Fury . At the end of the day he is 250 plus and when you get hit enough by a giant swinging down on you you are going to lose and likely knocked out.

[just the facts]

Furys size trumps his skills but his size is real so you have to include it into the equation when determining how difficult it is to defeat him . Its really not who he can beat but who can beat him and theres not many .

Some top past guys compared to Fury .........

1 / Muhammed Ali ..... needed the jab to set up everything and Fury fights in similar manner , people wont like it but lets be real . Fury has an 85 inch reach and is 6'9 ,Ali is not a power puncher either so thats a MAJOR strike with someone like Fury bc hes constantly movingand certainly wont be throwing haye maker rights under Fury bc he didnt punch like that . Ali doesnt fight good going forward ,and Fury would fustrate him to no end dictating how the fight is fought . Fury switches to southpaw also ,if Ali struggled with 6'1 190 Mildenberger who he states was his toughest fight in the 60's hes goinfg to struggle here with a southpaw whos twice as big and fast . Fury comfortably out boxes Ali and wins at least 85 % of the time .

2/ Joe Louis ........ No slow footed guy under 6'3 is going to get to Fury unless he stands flat footed and stationary . Louis would not be able to time Fury bc Fury does not fight in patterns or stay directly in front of you like those past timers who were much easily hit and certainly werent giants ,guys like 5'9 Gallento were able to knock Louis down and many guys didnt utilise a jab for the most part ,guys like Godoy and Conn did and gave Louis fits , Godoy actually won the first fight as did Walcott and Conn showed potentially what a bigger fighter would have done with good fundamentals bc Louis outsized Conn by about 30 pounds . Louis was also knocked out of the ring by Buddy Baer who didnt know what jab was and hes physically the closest thing to a big guy that Louis fought resembling Fury . I give Fury about a 90% chance of winning .

3 / Joe Frazier ........ Simple just watch the Mathis fight and Frazier losing by rnd 7 to the much larger boxer at 6'4 , A better in shape Fury who is not as skilled as Mathis still makes it nearly impossible for Frazier to hit him 6'9 vs 5'11 guy who needed to grind you down and Fury would put all his weight on the 205 Frazier ,i think he would k.o Frazier bc Frazier is not the hardest guy to hit and would catch him with one of those sneaky upper cuts ,while Frazier would missby miles as he plants his feet punching upward . Fury has about a 95 % chance winning this fight .


4/ Larry Holmes .... Similar to the Ali fight with the exception Holmes is harder to hit cleany as most will disagree with ,its true and he had a sharper stiffer accurate jab than Ali had so that in itself gives Holmes a better shot here . This is actually an interesting fight between ,both guys hit about the same , Holmes has more snap and Fury has more looks and is more fluid to the stiff up right Holmes . I believe Fury can confuse Holmes enough to get a decision win and still dictate distance with the crafty Holmes . Fury has a 80% chance winning this fight .

5/ Evander Holyfield ........ A decent puncer with speed and accuracy and is great at counter punching defensively or offensively certainly has a chance to get at Fury ,IF he doesnt get flustered with Fury jabs and long jabs seem to have give some difficulty in the past . Holyfield has the right footwork as well and at his best is a danger to anyone . Holyfield is by far the better fighter here with talent Fury cant duplicate but his inconsistencies from the Bowe fights to the Lewis ones those fights in between leave me to believe Fury will beat out the much smaller Holyfield more than not . Fury has a 65 % chance to win.

Fighters who i would pick to beat Fury in no order and without going into detail jus5t bc they have the power ,skill, attributes and some style to defeat him below .



Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitchko
Wlad Klitchko
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Anthony Joshua


Fury is hard to gauge bc he really hasnt fought anyone (No im not counting a dead Wlad until the rematch ) but one should still see his skills and understand the guy is no walk over if you know your boxing . Even if he loses to Wlad would not effect what i posted , if he loses it will be to power punchers who most likely are over or around 240 pounds , i dont really see any pure boxer beating him , you need to reach him and hit him hard thats how you beat Fury . At the end of the day he is 250 plus and when you get hit enough by a giant swinging down on you you are going to lose and likely knocked out.

Never mind the rest of this drivel, would everyone who truly believes that Fury outboxes Ali 85% of the time, please chine in.

[Tom Cruise]

Only in this era would Fury be considered to have quick feet. He's quick for his size, but trying to compare him to likes of Ali is laughable. Ali is better than Fury in every single category that pertains to boxing other than size.

On a Louis fight. Seriously, watch the Wlad fight back and pay attention to Fury form and defensive poise when he is throwing punches. He is wide open for a counterpuncher as skilled as Louis.

Louis would stay on the edge of range baiting Fury to come to him, when he did he would be hit with counters that are perfectly timed, with pin point accuracy and with some of the best power punching technique the HW division has ever seen (dont believe me? Ask Freddie Roach). I see this ending sometime in the first half of the fight. Louis probably has to break him down to the body a bit first, but as soon as he sees openings upstairs its only a matter of time

Fraziers success against anyone taller and longer than him is based how much they are able to clinch. Frazier will get inside, if the ref lets him fight he gives Fury absolute hell. Even if not he is an excellent counter puncher in his own way and is able to hit fighters with lightening fast left hooks that opponents cant see due to the trajectory they are coming from.

Holmes and Holyfield and both infinitely better than Tyson. That should be obvious to anyone who follows boxing.

If Fury fans think I'm being harsh, i'm not. These are some of the greatest HW's who have ever lived, all of them top 10 all time imo. Fury is just nowhere compared to them based on what ive seen so far.

[NYC8224]

Fury is 6'9 and can move around and use his jab, who the hell is really catching him? People act like height and reaches don't matter when it comes to fighting a 6'9 guy.

To the guy above, Mike Tyson is 5'10 and wouldn't even be able to touch Fury. M Tyson lost to Lewis, Holyfield twice, Douglas, McBride (doesn't really matter but still), all those guys are 6 foot something, he had trouble with taller guys later in his career once people studied him, he had no answer for Lennox.

Mike Tyson was great but he lost to anybody that knew how to move and control the distance between them, and that's exactly what Fury does.

[juggernaut666]

Only in this era would Fury be considered to have quick feet. He's quick for his size, but trying to compare him to likes of Ali is laughable. Ali is better than Fury in every single category that pertains to boxing other than size.

On a Louis fight. Seriously, watch the Wlad fight back and pay attention to Fury form and defensive poise when he is throwing punches. He is wide open for a counterpuncher as skilled as Louis.

Louis would stay on the edge of range baiting Fury to come to him, when he did he would be hit with counters that are perfectly timed, with pin point accuracy and with some of the best power punching technique the HW division has ever seen (dont believe me? Ask Freddie Roach). I see this ending sometime in the first half of the fight. Louis probably has to break him down to the body a bit first, but as soon as he sees openings upstairs its only a matter of time

Fraziers success against anyone taller and longer than him is based how much they are able to clinch. Frazier will get inside, if the ref lets him fight he gives Fury absolute hell. Even if not he is an excellent counter puncher in his own way and is able to hit fighters with lightening fast left hooks that opponents cant see due to the trajectory they are coming from.

Holmes and Holyfield and both infinitely better than Tyson. That should be obvious to anyone who follows boxing.

If Fury fans think I'm being harsh, i'm not. These are some of the greatest HW's who have ever lived, all of them top 10 all time imo. Fury is just nowhere compared to them based on what ive seen so far.

Louis was 6'2 with shorter arms than Wlad ,hes not countering anything unless Fury slips up . .

Frazier trying to beat up Fury would look like Pacman trying to beat up Roy Jones .

Im not a Fury fan ,im a realist you guys simply want to give the past time top guys super powers they wouldn't have today and overate them in general.