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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
    Concrete proof as in Andre Ward statement "I can't make 168 anymore"?
    Andre/Floyd fans always want written proof for whatever fact that does not support their theory.
    Most real fans on these threads appreciate links and references for quotes. It kinda keeps people from pulling **** out of their ass just to make a point.

    The Ward cant make 168 argument only exists to defend Trip not fighting Ward at 168. K2 made a business decision to wait on Alvarez and not fight Ward at 168, and so far it hasn't worked out. Time to move on....just like Ward and K2 have.

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #42
      Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
      Sanchez said the truth there. At the time Ward had just fought 172. Dan Rafael reported he couldn't make 168 anymore (in light of Ward saying a year later he's having issues staying at 175, kinda lends credence to Dan's report).

      And GGG didn't ask for a CW to Ward. What they were asked by Dan, and others, is what would it take to make the fight now, when GGG was staying at 160. He said meet in middle. He wasn't gonna move to 168 yet, with good reason.

      At the time when Ward offered GGG to fight him in 18 months, GGG had just gotten lined up to fully unify. A goal he's been talking about since coming to the states.

      At the time these were the facts:

      1. He owned the WBA strap.
      2. He signed to fight for the IBF. He won that strap.
      3. GGG was mandatory for the winner of Cotto/Canelo. He'd get that strap.
      4. And Lee was favored to beat Suanders and fight GGG in a big fight New York unfication fight. Lee had signed before so we know he would have. But after that, Suanders won and messed up the last part.

      So they turned Ward down for many reasons.

      1. Ward wanted 50/50 18 months in advance.
      2. Ward wanted 168.
      3. GGG had finally lined up unification fights.
      4. 2015-2016 would be the year GGG stock took off making it absurd to give Ward 50/50 so far in advance.

      They told Ward then and stick to it now. They'll fight him at 168 when completing his goals at 160.
      Don't be loose with facts to make an argument over a dead situation. It wasn't 18 months. K2 was entertaining fights at 168 in the midst of their unification plan. And the only response they gave RocNation was Maybe 2017, your goals were not mentioned.

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      • Bronx2245
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        #43
        What is the highest amount GGG ever made? Already, it sounds like GGG is the B-side because GBP is saying "we'll make him (GGG) an offer..." as if they're the ones holding all the belts, etc. Mayweather made Canelo an offer, Pacquiao made Vargas an offer, but with GGG, he's still receiving offers???

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        • Mate_Parlov
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          #44
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Most real fans on these threads appreciate links and references for quotes. It kinda keeps people from pulling **** out of their ass just to make a point.

          The Ward cant make 168 argument only exists to defend Trip not fighting Ward at 168. K2 made a business decision to wait on Alvarez and not fight Ward at 168, and so far it hasn't worked out. Time to move on....just like Ward and K2 have.
          Oracle Arena, Oakland, Calif. - Former super middleweight champion Andre Ward (30-0) dominated Alexander Brand (25-1) over 12 rounds to set up a November 19th H


          Here is reference for my quotes. This is the FACT that exists in REALITY. But in your mind it is not valid since you simply disregard it. Time to move on with your GGG obsession. Simply disregard his existence and keep following Ward.
          It is so sickening that I do not see 'fans' like you on Ward threads but only GGG ones. Get a life!

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          • Mate_Parlov
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            #45
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            What is the highest amount GGG ever made? Already, it sounds like GGG is the B-side because GBP is saying "we'll make him (GGG) an offer..." as if they're the ones holding all the belts, etc. Mayweather made Canelo an offer, Pacquiao made Vargas an offer, but with GGG, he's still receiving offers???
            Try following boxing and your favorite fighters and you will find out yourself.

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            • Jubei
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
              Concrete proof as in Andre Ward statement "I can't make 168 anymore"?
              Andre/Floyd fans always want written proof for whatever fact that does not support their theory.
              Here Ward said it himself, "I can't make 168 any more, I even struggle to make 175"



              also



              Ward last fight at 168 was in 2013, even after training for a year he couldnt make 168 and returned at 172 against a Supermiddleweight.

              also



              Ward fought at Light Heavyweight in the amateurs (178lb) at the age of 19,20 and won Olympic Gold at that weight.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #47
                Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
                Try following boxing and your favorite fighters and you will find out yourself.
                In other words, you don't know either!

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                • Mate_Parlov
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  In other words, you don't know either!
                  What I don't know, I am able to find it myself - unlike you!

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                  • Bronx2245
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mate_Parlov
                    What I don't know, I am able to find it myself - unlike you!
                    It's not that serious:

                    April 23, 2016:

                    $2 million is the same amount that Golovkin received against David Lemieux in his PPV debut last October. Against Willie Monroe Jr, GGG had a $1.5 million purse. All of GGG's seven-figure paydays have happened from 2015-2016, and this is only his 5th year as a regular fighter on US TV. He also recently signed a sponsorship deal with Nike's Jordan Brand. As for Wade, he is almost guaranteed to get crushed, but this is surely a career payday for him.

                    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/4/23...00-boxing-news

                    October 17, 2015:

                    If you were expecting Gennady Golovkin's pay-per-view payday to be anywhere near the levels that the likes of Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Cotto have managed over the years, then you're wrong. ESPN's Dan Rafael tweeted out the information for the entire televised portion of the HBO PPV, and it looks like Golovkin and Lemieux have split the money 57-43, with GGG getting $2 million to Lemieux's $1.5 million.
                    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/1...pv-boxing-news

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                      Why more than 10 mil? Why would Golovkin get over 5x he usually makes? Will Canelo get 5x he makes?
                      Because golovkin is a 3 belt champion ....is the best middleweight in the world and canelo will not be able to make 154lb anymore....that's why golovkin should get 10 million and Khan got that kind of money fighting canelo even though he had no belt and had avoided any kind of dangerous fight....if golovkin is offered that kind of money...triple GGG will tear goldenboys hand of for that .....let see how many ppvs canelo makes in the smith fight before we hail him as the ppv star they keep saying he is......eyeball stop ur agenda

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