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  • Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!! View Post
    No he wasn't.
    Proof??????

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      1. Why don't you learn how to consistently use the quote function so that this dialogue goes more smoothly, unless you are trying to avoid me.

      2. How the hell did I back up what you just said? You said he gave diluted urine after the IV. I clearly showed you that in their rule book, he is not allowed to give diluted urine after rehydrating.

      Please work on your comprehension skills, "dickhead."

      So do you admit you were wrong and giving false information now?
      It clearly say also that IV is a prohibited method that should only be given under specific conditions, none of with floyd met, it also says that only 50ml per 6 hours is allowed, another part floyd ignored,how about the part where usada gave a tue with no authority as the NSAC stated, how about the fact floyd had only lost 2lb in 2 weeks so he could not have been more than slightly dehydrated, how about the fact he didn't mention it on his pre fight medical questionaire, how about the fact no doctors name has been put forward as to who authorised the IV, how about the fact there was reps for the NSAC everywhere on fight night yet nothing was mentioned about the IV, how about the fact that on fight night the NSAC and usada were discussing pacquaios possible injection but usada didn't find it nessaccary to inform the NSAC of floyds IV arter the weigh in, so many things were wrong with what happened but dickheads like you stick your head in the sand and try to justify what he did, if it was pacquaio that had the IV you would all be saying you knew he was a drug cheat, yet floyd actually did it and he's innocent, your a dickhead

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      • 7.3
        Insufficient
        Sample
        Volume
        If an
        Athlete
        is unable to provide 90 mL of urine, the
        DCO
        follows this sequence of
        actions:
        1.
        Advises the
        Athlete
        that the partial
        Sample
        provided shall be secured and a
        further
        Sample
        or
        Samples
        collected until a
        Suitable
        Volume for Urine
        Analysis
        is provided.
        2.
        Instructs the
        Athlete
        to select partial
        Sample
        Collection Equipment
        , as per
        Guidelines
        Section 6.1.
        Recommended:
        Provide the
        Athlete
        with at
        least 3 partial
        Sample Collection
        kits
        from which to select.
        3.
        Instructs the
        Athlete
        to open the relevant equipment, pour the insufficient
        Sample
        into the new container (unless the
        Sample
        Collection Authority’s
        procedures permit retention of the insufficient
        Sample
        in the original
        collection vessel), and seal it as directed by the
        DCO
        .
        4.
        In full view of the
        Athlete
        , checks that the container (or original collection
        vessel, if applicable) has been properly sealed.
        5.
        With the
        Athlete
        , checks that the equipment code number, the volume and
        identity of the insufficient
        Sample
        are recorded
        accurately on the
        Doping
        Cont
        rol
        form
        .
        6.
        With the
        Athlete
        ,
        initials or signs the
        Doping Control
        form to show both are
        satisfied with the temporary sealing procedure.
        The
        Athlete
        then return to the waiting area, and remains under continuous
        observation until
        ready to provide a further
        Sample
        .
        Subject to the color or the initial
        T
        esting
        of any residue of the
        Athlete’s
        partial urine
        Sample
        , the
        Athlete
        should be advised if further hydration is appropriate or not
        ,
        to
        avoid providing a
        Sample
        that doesn’t have a
        Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis
        .
        Either the
        Athlete
        or the
        DCO
        retains control of the
        Sample
        .
        The
        DCO
        ensures that the sealed partial
        Sample
        is securely stored under continuous
        observation or in a secure area within the
        Doping Control
        Station
        .If
        the
        Athlete
        retains control of the
        Sample
        , he/she must remain with the partial
        Sample
        within the
        Doping Control
        Station
        , under the continuous observation of
        Sample
        Collection Personnel
        .
        When the
        Athlete
        is ready to provide more urine, the
        Sample
        provision
        process is
        repeated until the
        DCO
        is satisfied that
        Suitable Volume for Urine Analysis
        has been
        met by combining the subsequent
        Sample/s
        with
        the stored partial
        Sample
        .
        To ensure process continuity and for the
        Athlete’s
        comfort, the same
        Witness
        of the
        in
        itial attempt is used if possible. However, a change of
        Witness
        in no way affects
        process integrity.
        The
        Athlete
        selects a new
        Sample
        collection vessel each time he/she attempts to
        pass an additional
        Sample
        .
        Once the
        Athlete
        has provided a further
        Sample,
        the
        DCO
        asks the
        Athlete
        to
        inspect the container used to temporarily store his/her their partial
        Sample
        , to
        ensure the seals are secure and consistent with the information recorded on the
        Doping Control
        form.
        Any irregularities in seal integrity
        are recorded by the
        DCO
        , either
        on the
        Doping
        Control
        form or in a separate report to the
        Sample
        Collection Authority
        , and
        investigated according to ISTI Annex A
        -
        Investigating a
        Possible
        Failure to Comply
        .
        The
        DCO
        then directs the
        Athlete
        to remove/break
        the seal of the partial
        Sample
        container(s) and combine the
        Sample
        with the partial
        Sample
        until the desired
        volume is reached or, if additional volume is available, until the maximum level of
        the
        Sample
        c
        ollection vessel is reached.
        I
        f a subsequent
        Sampl
        e
        provided by the
        Athlete
        looks more diluted than the
        Sample
        stored in the partial
        Sample
        kit
        , the
        DCO
        is to advise
        the
        Athlete
        to pour
        only the
        amount
        of urine required
        to meet the
        Suitable Volume for Analysis
        .
        Otherwise there is a risk that the specific gravity of the
        Sample
        may be reduced to
        a
        n unacceptable
        level
        ,
        which then require
        s
        the
        Athlete
        to provide an additional
        Sample
        or
        Samples
        .
        Once a minimum of 90 mL of urine or greater is collected, th
        Last edited by Shape up; 10-15-2016, 05:59 AM. Reason: add more

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        • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          It clearly say also that IV is a prohibited method that should only be given under specific conditions, none of with floyd met,
          Don't you think you need his medical records to decide whether he met the conditions or not? This isn't rocket science.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          it also says that only 50ml per 6 hours is allowed, another part floyd ignored,
          Wrong. That is what is allowed unless a TUE is granted. Get your facts straight.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the part where usada gave a tue with no authority as the NSAC stated,
          Wrong. An IV is not illegal with regards to NSAC's rules, so there would be no need for a TUE. The only reason a TUE was needed was to follow WADA's rules, which is why it makes sense that USADA issued the TUE since it is a signatory of WADA and NSAC is not. Again, not rocket science. Also, NSAC has come forward and said Mayweather did nothing wrong, so if you are going to look into their statements, don't leave that out.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the fact floyd had only lost 2lb in 2 weeks so he could not have been more than slightly dehydrated,
          I've asked you plenty of times. Do you think this is the most important issue regarding whether he was dehydrated or not? You can't find out whether someone is dehydrated or not simply because they only lost 2lbs in 2 weeks. If you think that's how it works, you are a moron.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the fact he didn't mention it on his pre fight medical questionaire,
          I dare you to find any boxer who has ever mentioned dehydration on a medical questionnaire. Let's see what you bring back.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the fact no doctors name has been put forward as to who authorised the IV,
          Maybe this will help you:
          The purpose of the International Standard for the Protection of Privacy and Personal Information (ISPPPI) is to ensure that all relevant parties involved in anti-doping in sport adhere to a set of minimum privacy protections when collecting and using athlete personal information, such as information relating to whereabouts, doping controls, and therapeutic use exemptions (TUE).

          USADA adheres to the WADA ISPPPI.

          http://www.usada.org/testing/results/athlete-privacy/

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the fact there was reps for the NSAC everywhere on fight night yet nothing was mentioned about the IV,
          NSAC was informed a month before the fight that in the event that a TUE is granted, they would be notified upon it's approval. If NSAC had a problem with this, they had plenty of time to speak up, don't you think?

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          how about the fact that on fight night the NSAC and usada were discussing pacquaios possible injection but usada didn't find it nessaccary to inform the NSAC of floyds IV arter the weigh in,
          See the above.

          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          so many things were wrong with what happened but dickheads like you stick your head in the sand and try to justify what he did, if it was pacquaio that had the IV you would all be saying you knew he was a drug cheat, yet floyd actually did it and he's innocent, your a dickhead
          Once again, all of your bullshlt shot down. You have to try harder. That hate in your blood is not allowing you to think properly. I'm always here to help you out, little guy.

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          • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
            7.3
            Insufficient
            Sample
            Volume
            If an
            Athlete
            is unable to provide 90 mL of urine, the
            DCO
            follows this sequence of
            actions:
            1.
            Advises the
            Athlete
            that the partial
            Sample
            provided shall be secured and a
            further
            Sample
            or
            Samples
            collected until a
            Suitable
            Volume for Urine
            Analysis
            is provided.
            2.
            Instructs the
            Athlete
            to select partial
            Sample
            Collection Equipment
            , as per
            Guidelines
            Section 6.1.
            Recommended:
            Provide the
            Athlete
            with at
            least 3 partial
            Sample Collection
            kits
            from which to select.
            3.
            Instructs the
            Athlete
            to open the relevant equipment, pour the insufficient
            Sample
            into the new container (unless the
            Sample
            Collection Authority’s
            procedures permit retention of the insufficient
            Sample
            in the original
            collection vessel), and seal it as directed by the
            DCO
            .
            4.
            In full view of the
            Athlete
            , checks that the container (or original collection
            vessel, if applicable) has been properly sealed.
            5.
            With the
            Athlete
            , checks that the equipment code number, the volume and
            identity of the insufficient
            Sample
            are recorded
            accurately on the
            Doping
            Cont
            rol
            form
            .
            6.
            With the
            Athlete
            ,
            initials or signs the
            Doping Control
            form to show both are
            satisfied with the temporary sealing procedure.
            The
            Athlete
            then return to the waiting area, and remains under continuous
            observation until
            ready to provide a further
            Sample
            .
            Subject to the color or the initial
            T
            esting
            of any residue of the
            Athlete’s
            partial urine
            Sample
            , the
            Athlete
            should be advised if further hydration is appropriate or not
            ,
            to
            avoid providing a
            Sample
            that doesn’t have a
            Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis

            .
            Either the
            Athlete
            or the
            DCO
            retains control of the
            Sample
            .
            The
            DCO
            ensures that the sealed partial
            Sample
            is securely stored under continuous
            observation or in a secure area within the
            Doping Control
            Station
            .If
            the
            Athlete
            retains control of the
            Sample
            , he/she must remain with the partial
            Sample
            within the
            Doping Control
            Station
            , under the continuous observation of
            Sample
            Collection Personnel
            .
            When the
            Athlete
            is ready to provide more urine, the
            Sample
            provision
            process is
            repeated until the
            DCO
            is satisfied that
            Suitable Volume for Urine Analysis
            has been
            met by combining the subsequent
            Sample/s
            with
            the stored partial
            Sample
            .
            To ensure process continuity and for the
            Athlete’s
            comfort, the same
            Witness
            of the
            in
            itial attempt is used if possible. However, a change of
            Witness
            in no way affects
            process integrity.
            The
            Athlete
            selects a new
            Sample
            collection vessel each time he/she attempts to
            pass an additional
            Sample
            .
            Once the
            Athlete
            has provided a further
            Sample,
            the
            DCO
            asks the
            Athlete
            to
            inspect the container used to temporarily store his/her their partial
            Sample
            , to
            ensure the seals are secure and consistent with the information recorded on the
            Doping Control
            form.
            Any irregularities in seal integrity
            are recorded by the
            DCO
            , either
            on the
            Doping
            Control
            form or in a separate report to the
            Sample
            Collection Authority
            , and
            investigated according to ISTI Annex A
            -
            Investigating a
            Possible
            Failure to Comply
            .
            The
            DCO
            then directs the
            Athlete
            to remove/break
            the seal of the partial
            Sample
            container(s) and combine the
            Sample
            with the partial
            Sample
            until the desired
            volume is reached or, if additional volume is available, until the maximum level of
            the
            Sample
            c
            ollection vessel is reached.
            I
            f a subsequent
            Sampl
            e
            provided by the
            Athlete
            looks more diluted than the
            Sample
            stored in the partial
            Sample
            kit
            , the
            DCO
            is to advise
            the
            Athlete
            to pour
            only the
            amount
            of urine required
            to meet the
            Suitable Volume for Analysis
            .
            Otherwise there is a risk that the specific gravity of the
            Sample
            may be reduced to
            a
            n unacceptable
            level
            ,
            which then require
            s
            the
            Athlete
            to provide an additional
            Sample
            or
            Samples

            .
            Once a minimum of 90 mL of urine or greater is collected, th
            Keep going. Wait till you get all the way to 7.4.11.

            Oh what the hell. I'll post it up for you.

            7.4.11 The DCO shall confirm that the Sample meets the requirements for analysis, as specified by the ADO in accordance with the laboratory standards, by testing the residual volume of urine remaining in the collection vessel for specific gravity (greater than or equal to 1.005 if using a refractometer, or 1.010 with lab sticks. Reagent strips and/or a refractometer may be used.


            So um....give up now? LMAO! You just bodied yourself, clown!

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            • do you live under a rock, you must with those answers dickhead

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              • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                do you live under a rock, you must with those answers dickhead
                Looks like I just dropped a boulder on you since you came back with nothing, "dickhead."

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                • Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a therapeutic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents through the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission’s medical expert.

                  “He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can’t authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a therapeutic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada,” Bennett said. “USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.

                  “If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the state of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken.”

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                  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                    Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a therapeutic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents through the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission’s medical expert.

                    “He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can’t authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a therapeutic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada,” Bennett said. “USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.

                    “If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the state of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken.”
                    Maybe you shouldn't have glossed over this part.

                    Bennett said he has no concerns Mayweather was working to mask drug use, saying the boxer “has always been an advocate of drug testing and has set a fine example for all fighters.”

                    Comment


                    • They sounded really happy about the TUE dickhead

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