Everyone Wants to Talk About Floyd's IV - What About Pac-Monster's Toradol Abuse???

[IR0NFIST]

Well you know, if that bothers you, how about we compare him to Daniel Cormier who had T/E ratios in the .4 range, I believe. Lower than Floyd's. He also was CIR tested. No adverse findings. Not even *******.

So, what you got now?

That's what I thought.

Ready to give up, clown boy?

You weren't comparing Floyd to Cormier though. It's also worth noting that Cormier's low T:E ratios were well within the 30% variation range. This is why Victor Conte along with the former head of WADA found no probable cause for su****ion with his sample. More importantly, Cormier is 37 years old, nearly 10 years older than Jon Jones.

[Shape up]

Ahahahahaha. Stop owning yourself. The man said CIR testing was needed and got butt hurt like you when the CIR testing was done. Of course he said he was still su****ious because he had to eat crow like your dumb ass.

Now bow down bltch and step off. You're done.

You didn't read that obviously, it's about masking CIR testing so you pass, that exactly what conte is talking about when athletes like floyd and jones have low T/E ratios, they might pass the CIR testing but also could be masking, funny thing is having an IV is banned because it's a masking method, funny how floyd got a tue with only slight to moderate dehydration when WADA rules CLEARLY state that IV is not an option in those circumstances and they CLEARLY state it should be by PRIOR approval, you have not shown any facts backing your ridiculous claims, personally I think your a sandwich short of a picnic

[IR0NFIST]

You didn't read that obviously, it's about masking CIR testing so you pass, that exactly what conte is talking about when athletes like floyd and jones have low T/E ratios, they might pass the CIR testing but also could be masking, funny thing is having an IV is banned because it's a masking method, funny how floyd got a tue with only slight to moderate dehydration when WADA rules CLEARLY state that IV is not an option in those circumstances and they CLEARLY state it should be by PRIOR approval, you have not shown any facts backing your ridiculous claims, personally I think your a sandwich short of a picnic

Take it easy on the poor kid, he's clearly struggling with reading comprehension. I think you might want to rephrase your entire post to a TL;DR version, it would make his life a lot easier.

[travestyny]

You weren't comparing Floyd to Cormier though. It's also worth noting that Cormier's low T:E ratios were well within the 30% variation range. This is why Victor Conte along with the former head of WADA found no probable cause for su****ion with his sample. More importantly, Cormier is 37 years old, nearly 10 years older than Jon Jones.

And did the specialist mention anything about age when she discussed all of these T/E values not being abnormal?

Are you capable of using your brain or what? Here is another hint. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. And I've proven this repeatedly. Want more?

[IR0NFIST]

And did the specialist mention anything about age when she discussed all of these T/E values not being abnormal?

Are you capable of using your brain or what? Here is another hint. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. And I've proven this repeatedly. Want more?

If I were to guess, she assumed that the readers were well informed enough to know that the aging process has been scientifically proven to effect hormone levels. You've obviously proven her wrong though.

[Dosumpthin]

Run down of the last 20 pages......Pact@rds constantly moving the goal post and post zero facts.


1. They started with Thomas Hauser M.D. report that suggest Floyd's low T/E levels, which had nothing to do with the thread topic, as a way to suggest ped use.

2. They didn't understand that if an athletes t/e ratios raise su****ion then carbon isotope testing is implemented which will accurately determine any use synthetic testostorone.


All of Floyd's and mannys samples were cir tested.


But that wasn't good enough.....

3. Pact@rds now claim ....I don't know what the **** they claim.....******* abuse? ****** people....I dont know why.....but now suggest Floyd managed to mask 21 CIR test by using an IV.


Pact@rds are very ****** people. They want to believe Floyd is dirty by suggesting every available, no matter how impractical, possibility - that somehow said possibilities do not apply to Manny.





Dr ellatrache : "**** manny, will you sit still?!"

Nsac : "wtf is that?? Toradol? **** no. Who said you can use this ****?!"

Bob arum : "YOU DID! And USADA ALSO. I have a TUE!"

[IR0NFIST]

Run down of the last 20 pages......Pact@rds constantly moving the goal post and post zero facts.


1. They started with Thomas Hauser M.D. report that suggest Floyd's low T/E levels, which had nothing to do with the thread topic, as a way to suggest ped use.

2. They didn't understand that if an athletes t/e ratios raise su****ion then carbon isotope testing is implemented which will accurately determine any use synthetic testostorone.


All of Floyd's and mannys samples were cir tested.


But that wasn't good enough.....

3. Pact@rds now claim ....I don't know what the **** they claim.....******* abuse? ****** people....I dont know why.....but now suggest Floyd managed to mask 21 CIR test by using an IV.


Pact@rds are very ****** people. They want to believe Floyd by suggesting every available, no matter how impractical, possibility - that somehow said possibilities do not apply to Manny.





Dr ellatrache : "**** manny, will you sit still?!"

Nsac : "wtf is that?? Toradol? **** no. Who said you can use this ****?!"

Bob arum : "YOU DID! And USADA ALSO. I have a TUE!"

When all else fails, release the alts. Right, travestyny?

[LoadedWraps]

And did the specialist mention anything about age when she discussed all of these T/E values not being abnormal?

Are you capable of using your brain or what? Here is another hint. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. And I've proven this repeatedly. Want more?

[Godsfly]

this travestyny guy destroyed this thread........got people looking like complete clowns running in circles.

[Dosumpthin]

When all else fails, release the alts. Right, travestyny?

Wrong guy. I only have one alt. Spoon23.

Ask the mods.