Comments Thread For: Canelo: I'm Making History - Golovkin is Older and Fought Nobody!

[Daddy T]

So what he is saying is he is refusing to fight an old man who has never fought anybody?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

canelo has been in there with some greats that's undeniable, GGG on the other hand... hopefully he gets a credible opponent soon.

[goldenbear]

GGG is skilled however has lackluster record

GGG is 32 and hasn't fought a single person at this point in his career. His whole resume is padded with B/C level fighters. I'm not sure why GGG hasn't moved up to fight guys his size because he's a big middle weight in terms of his width and thickness. Maybe not the tallest but definitely a big guy. Canelo will fight GGG after Pac. I said they would fight and there was obvious talks. I think Arum will see the bottom line and make the fight happen next year especially since Pac having trouble securing a fight HBO will support.

[Metho_4u]

You did fight some great guys Nelo.

But who did you beat Nelo?

May boxed your ears off and many felt Lara did the same.

Are you living in a dream world?

Your best legit win might be Trout, then a old Mosley, then a blown up chinny lightweight in Kahn, Angulo?

At the end of the day, taking in count GGG's wins in his long ams career.

Wins over Bute, Direll, Korobov, Lee in ams international contests then Lemieux, Geale, Murray, Ouma as a pro might beat your record Candela.

He is 1-1 vs Dirrell pal

[Metho_4u]

I don't know about that. Canelo has never fought a MW. I think the only thing he has is his counters. Footwork is mediocre and the only thing he's improved since Mayweather is his upper body movement. Well, his IQ increased but I see a more careful Canelo and the rest about the same. Honestly it'd be an interesting fight but GGG would probably hurt him. Given his speed and never been up against a MW I'd say the fight would end with a TKO.

I don't care much for the fight tbh, I don't like each guy much. Canelo has the better resume no matter how you look at it.

[Metho_4u]

Just like you said you can't blame Canelo for not wanting to fight GGG by way of coincidence, then the very same applies to Gennady Golovkin. Brook was a fight he never wanted. It was by coincidence, after the Chris Eubanks fight fell through that it was offered to him by Eddie Hearn; Kell Brook's promoter, because his 160lb mandatory challenger, Saul Alvarez relinquished the WBC belt, after defending it against a blown up welterweight Amir Khan.

Golovkin on the other hand wanted to fight and unify all the titles against boxers in his own weight class, instead of challenging welterweights like Kell Brook or moving up to a higher weight class; The 168lb division to challenge Andre ward. However, it wasn't until Kell Brook decided to be great by jumping two weight classes into the 160lb division, to challenge him, that he agreed to fight him.

The bottom line is both Canelo and Golovkin are the same size and were competing in the same weight division simultaneously but Ginger chose to duck him, rather than fight him; End of story.

That was one hell of a convenient coincidence huh?

[Obliterator]

I don't care much for the fight tbh, I don't like each guy much. Canelo has the better resume no matter how you look at it.

Same here. I appreciate the way they box because it's exciting so I can't say I don't like them. Canelo does have a better resume, but I'm sure being Mexican plays a big factor in getting better names and money. They take may and September for a reason. There are tons of causal Latino fans. Not denying the risk Canelo took in fighting Lara, but you also can't deny that it's easier to make money and thus pay your opponents what they want in order to make those fights. If GGG had that then he would have a similar resume. Too many factors in making a fighter an ATG but I agree that GGG needs an A boxer in front of him to gauge where he's at and what he will bring later on.

[From Russia]

GGG fought nobody because ******* like ****elo are running from him.

[Metho_4u]

Same here. I appreciate the way they box because it's exciting so I can't say I don't like them. Canelo does have a better resume, but I'm sure being Mexican plays a big factor in getting better names and money. They take may and September for a reason. There are tons of causal Latino fans. Not denying the risk Canelo took in fighting Lara, but you also can't deny that it's easier to make money and thus pay your opponents what they want in order to make those fights. If GGG had that then he would have a similar resume. Too many factors in making a fighter an ATG but I agree that GGG needs an A boxer in front of him to gauge where he's at and what he will bring later on.

He doesn't want a true elite A level fighter though, he will lose if he fights one. That will end his aura of invincibility. He's both lucky and unlucky. On the one hand, the 1 elite he had an opportunity to fight...he ducked. Win or lose he would've gotten credit for fighting Ward. Lucky in the sense that the MW division is the weakest division out there right now or pretty damn close if not. Which is easier though? To say that your goal is to stay at weak MW and be able to stay champ and fight WWs and lower class fighters, or move up with guys who are at least somewhat better, though Degale and Jack imo have not shown me to be elite, but much better than GayLoveKins best wins to date. Also lucky in the sense that his sheep will keep defending him with each new bum they bring in.

Canelo fought bums for a long time too, but he was obviously much younger, but since that time his opposition has gone up. We all knew the khan fight was a joke. khan is simply a money hungry, arrogant pos and wanted a payday. Lara was a fight that his own team admitted they did not want Alvarez to take, but credit where it's due, it was a close fight, he happened to get the nod and so no matter how others saw it, the record books are going to say that Canelo won.

If GayLoveKin can make 160 so easy, if he's such a small MW, fine! Go down to 154, fight Andrade, fight Lara, Charlos, etc...start calling Canelo out after every fight. Get rid of Loeffler because he's ruining his career and making him look very ******, tell Sanchez to train him and stfu, and people will take you more seriously. Jacobs duck you? Fine, then say it live! Address the Saunders money situation, show the offer! Don't just expect people to believe it after you've been caught flip flopping so many times.

[iloveboxing2]

That's because top guys keeps on ducking 3G, like Canelo did.