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Should Robeisy Ramirez defect from Cuba and turn pro?
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Originally posted by Spacey1991 View PostI rate him highly mate, I think he has a great mix of defence and offence, mixed with a massive skill set and ring intelligence. I have no doubt he could make it work if he has the right people around him and learns how to promote himself before its too late.
I loved watching him when he was in the London Olympics and have kept an eye out for him since, was looking forward to seeing him in Rio, I've still not got round to seeing him vs Stevenson yet, was looking forward to it but was busy when it was on, I remember being pissed when Conlan got robbed because him vs Stevenson would of been great and then the winner against Ramirez in the final - such a shame corruption ruined what could have been a good set of match ups.
As for fighting for Cuba, I got that vibe from the very few interviews there are of him, and the perception I get form their culture (you would know far more about that than me though, I'm just guessing really), and yeah I could imagine defecting at 22 would be difficult.
It's a damn shame what they did to Conlon, taking a kid's dreams away like that. It's criminal. And you're right, the judges not only robbed Conlon, they robbed the fans. Utterly disgraceful.
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Originally posted by Tom Cruise View PostYou obviously know way more than me about this, but the impression i get from many if these guys is that they extremely patriotic and loyal to 'Cuba' but that doesn't necessarily extend to the Cuban regime.
Like Rigo and Lara always wears Cuban shorts yet they defected to go make money for themselves in the US
You're right. Like most everyone else, Cuban athletes love their country and their culture, but that's a far cry from supporting the government and its ways. I like to see Cubans sporting the island's flag on their trunks. Lara and most of the other defectors do it. Rigo did in the beginning, but in his last few fights, he seems to have stopped "repping." No sure what that means, but I find it a little selfish.
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thing is while in cuba he makes probably around $100 a month, which is 4,5 times what cubans normally make and if gets injured or out of the team for whatever reason, he'd de left with nothing for the rest of his life, i wish he'd leave soon, try to get good fights in the pros and saves some money for his coming years, and of course as a fan i'd like to see him fight the best
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I look forward to following his career if he turns pro. Think he'd be much more entertaining than Rigo and Lara. Although it'd gotta be hard to defect especially if you have family and stuff you don't want to leave behind
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Excuse my ignorance, but I am not American nor Cuban. When Cuban's defect, does that make them illegal immigrants in the USA?
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Originally posted by WarMaidana View PostI look forward to following his career if he turns pro. Think he'd be much more entertaining than Rigo and Lara. Although it'd gotta be hard to defect especially if you have family and stuff you don't want to leave behind
Rigo and Lara are very good defensively but Ramirez is not just good defensively he's shows aggression when he sees openings.
There were a few fights during the past Olympics where Ramirez would make his opponent miss counter with s 3 punch combo then make them miss again and counter with another combo all while standing in front of them.
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Originally posted by WarMaidana View PostI look forward to following his career if he turns pro. Think he'd be much more entertaining than Rigo and Lara. Although it'd gotta be hard to defect especially if you have family and stuff you don't want to leave behind
Originally posted by WarMaidana View PostExcuse my ignorance, but I am not American nor Cuban. When Cuban's defect, does that make them illegal immigrants in the USA?
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