Why is the MW division considered a "weak" division?

[Boxfan83]

Absolutely agree. When a guy people dislike for whatever reason is dominating a division the easiest answer is to label it weak.

Klitchko dominated but his style was awful to watch, so everyone said that HW division is weak. When Calzaghe cleaned his division, it was labeled weak. Hagler's long reign came in supposedly weak division. Same thing for Hopkins@MW.

I agree J0zef, I thought of Klitchko when I made this thread actually. I think people are missing my point though, MW is a talented division. There are not many with 4 good/great fighters in it. In all reality they represent the best of different parts of the world. I understand they are not fighting each other but if they did would it make it all of a sudden a star studded packed division?? I dont think so. Itd make it fun but itd still be the same talent. Its no wonder UFC is on the horizon, me personally I prefer 130lbs and below, less drama...

[Boxfan83]

Dominic Wade never even fought at 160 and was a ranked contender to fulfill a mandatory~

Curtis Stevens has done what? Snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat against Tuereano Johnson?

Tuerano Johnson gave Curtis Stevens all he could handle.

Willie Monroe won Boxcino

Lemieux beat N'dam

Quillin beat N'Dam

Rubio beat Lemieux

Jacobs beat Quillin.

Rosado gave some dude tough fights in loses but loses every time he steps up.

I can go on and on but all I see at best is mediocrity with all of these fighters, and on a world class level they are essentially zeros. So give me reasons why I should think the division is even average~

I understand your points and I can agree, my thing is which other division has the talent of the 4 guys I named? Also if you look at it that way I could dissect a lot of other divisions the same way. 147 would be an awesome place to start but my point of the thread is theres lots of talent for any 1 person whether you are a GGG fan, Jacobs fan, Canelo fan, or Saunders fan to discredit the division is semi-productive to whatever agenda you have...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

because a fighter they dont like is the best guy in it, so they have to say its ****

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I agree J0zef, I thought of Klitchko when I made this thread actually. I think people are missing my point though, MW is a talented division. There are not many with 4 good/great fighters in it. In all reality they represent the best of different parts of the world. I understand they are not fighting each other but if they did would it make it all of a sudden a star studded packed division?? I dont think so. Itd make it fun but itd still be the same talent. Its no wonder UFC is on the horizon, me personally I prefer 130lbs and below, less drama...

So very true. I'd like to see the structure of UFC in boxing. There should be a UBC and hold regular events and get all boxers under one banner. And stack those damn under cards. Then at least the best would fight each other.

[The Gambler1981]

I understand your points and I can agree, my thing is which other division has the talent of the 4 guys I named? Also if you look at it that way I could dissect a lot of other divisions the same way. 147 would be an awesome place to start but my point of the thread is theres lots of talent for any 1 person whether you are a GGG fan, Jacobs fan, Canelo fan, or Saunders fan to discredit the division is semi-productive to whatever agenda you have...

I don't think Saunders is anything in the grand scheme of boxing. Jacobs is decent but a question mark. Canelo has yet to really compete at 160.

Golovkin is clear the top of the food chain at 160.

175
Ward
Kovalev
Stevenson
Alvarez
Beterbiev

168
DeGale
Jack
Dirrell 1
Dirrell 2
Ramirez
Bute

154
Lara
Charlo 1
Charlo 2
Andrade
Williams

147
Thurman
Garcia
Pacquiao
Porter
Spence
Bradley
Brook

140
Crawford
Postal
Broner
Barthelemy

135
Zlaticanin
Linares
Crolla
Flanigan
Verdejo
Mikey Garcia

130
Pedraza
Vargas
Sosa
Walters
Lomachenko
Salido

I think 160 is worse than all those division based on 4 names.

[The Gambler1981]

Also the only reason one would pick 160's 4 names as better is because Golovkin is a stud, thus could make up the difference in the other 3 being soft with some of the weaker divisions like 140 or 135.

1 stud does not make a division~

[CHOWWOKKA]

The number 1 guy in the division is fighting a welterweight.. That should speak volumes on the division

[Kigali]

The number 1 guy in the division is fighting a welterweight.. That should speak volumes on the division

you won.....

[Kigali]

Because the best guy in the division just said that a ww will be his toughest test.

Ouch...that's gotta' hurt...

[boliodogs]

It isn't a weak division. GGG haters have to say it is a weak division because GGG is generally considered to be the best middleweight in the world. By saying middleweight is so weak they can then call GGG a coward for hiding out in such a weak division. They insist he must move up to a heavier weight class he doesn't belong in hoping he will finally lose a fight.