Spence more like Pac than Floyd.

[creekrat77]

they should be rated higher at welterweight....the man turned pro and fought most of his fights below 147

So Mayweather being smart and not being dumb enough to slug bigger fighters makes him less of a fighter?

Mayweather would have also not have been ****** enough to come in under prepared vs De Jesus...that's part of being a great fighter...preparation.


Duran has that win over Leonard and after that the comp falls off mightily....every other great fighter he faced, he lost to...Bentiez, Hearns, Hagler.....even non greats in De Jesus....fringe contenders in Kirkland, Robbie sims and no names in his mid and late 30s

Great fighter, who gets overrated because of nostalgia.

Overrated because of nostalgia? You're crazy haha. He gave Haglers all he could possibly handle in the later less dedicated phase of his career. Not to mention he beat a real bruser and big strong middleweight in Barkley at 38 for the title. He beat Leonard, maybe the single best welterweight behind Robinson off all time. With that kind of style he was competitive well into his 40. He lost to Hearns and went out on his shield like a proper gent. Didn't hold for dear life like Floyd in every instance of feeling high risk pressure

[creekrat77]

they should be rated higher at welterweight....the man turned pro and fought most of his fights below 147

So Mayweather being smart and not being dumb enough to slug bigger fighters makes him less of a fighter?

Mayweather would have also not have been ****** enough to come in under prepared vs De Jesus...that's part of being a great fighter...preparation.


Duran has that win over Leonard and after that the comp falls off mightily....every other great fighter he faced, he lost to...Bentiez, Hearns, Hagler.....even non greats in De Jesus....fringe contenders in Kirkland, Robbie sims and no names in his mid and late 30s

Great fighter, who gets overrated because of nostalgia.

It does make him less of a fighter. His wins are not representative of total victory like that of Pacquiao beating down Margarito, Morales, Barrera, Hatton, Oscar, Cotton and others. Not saying Floyd's KO win over Hatton isnt great, just that he didn't do it in the way that exemplified a better win like Pac.
Leonard was a mean sob for most of his career with the outlook that he wanted to demolish his opponent using the best of his abilities. Floyd let's off the gas pedal and doesn't perform like a prize fighter. He even blames other fighters for making it boring when he won't engage, noting that they should have to catch him/cut off the ring. We all know Floyd has beat down guy's like Gatti for instance, but when its good competition he plays it extremely safe. Does the absolute bare minimum

[StefanTosic]

I wonder how long before the idiotic fl0mos start calling spence a dumb brawler with no skills/defense.

Luckily you are wrong man, they are never going to do it. Prehaps it's going to make all the hypster-couch-sweet-scientist talk less about the sweet science in the future, and to jerk off less to Lara's beautiful style. They are going to start enjoying more exciting fights, even though they are going to enjoy it for a different reason, because of a black american fighter who's successful with it, while the rest of us would enjoy watching skilled boxers involved in exciting fights as we always did no matter where are they coming from, so it's a great thing for boxing. I won't be suprised if some of them start complaining about the overly defensive boxers in the future.

To me there is a great difference between watching two brawlers with no skill in a war and a pair of skilled boxers going at it, that's why I love so much Morales vs Barrera trilogy. I have a lot of bad things to say about PBC but Errol Spence, a black KO artists is one of the greatest things that could happen to boxing now, plus he's willing to fight the best possible opponents.
Another thing is PBC financial problems are hopefully going to force them to make more 50/50 fights.

[therealpugilist]

Overrated because of nostalgia? You're crazy haha. He gave Haglers all he could possibly handle in the later less dedicated phase of his career. Not to mention he beat a real bruser and big strong middleweight in Barkley at 38 for the title. He beat Leonard, maybe the single best welterweight behind Robinson off all time. With that kind of style he was competitive well into his 40. He lost to Hearns and went out on his shield like a proper gent. Didn't hold for dear life like Floyd in every instance of feeling high risk pressure

Clinching is the smart thing to do when you're in trouble, would you have preferred he let Mosley to tee off when he was hurt? that's flat out ******

being exciting and going for knockouts don't mean you are great, just means you are aggressive or have power.

you obviously haven't watched many of his fights because Mayweather fought back hard, especially when he was younger, when he was pressured

when he got older, he'd simply use his legs or clinch to make them reset....its called being smart.

[therealpugilist]

It does make him less of a fighter. His wins are not representative of total victory like that of Pacquiao beating down Margarito, Morales, Barrera, Hatton, Oscar, Cotton and others. Not saying Floyd's KO win over Hatton isnt great, just that he didn't do it in the way that exemplified a better win like Pac.
Leonard was a mean sob for most of his career with the outlook that he wanted to demolish his opponent using the best of his abilities. Floyd let's off the gas pedal and doesn't perform like a prize fighter. He even blames other fighters for making it boring when he won't engage, noting that they should have to catch him/cut off the ring. We all know Floyd has beat down guy's like Gatti for instance, but when its good competition he plays it extremely safe. Does the absolute bare minimum

so winning clearly without a back and forth war makes him less of a fighter? only of NSB....you are a casual fan bro and know nothing about fighting smart and tactics

What since did it make for Mayweather to fight Canelo, Guerrero, Pac, Berto, etc, toe to toe when he had the edge in speed, mobility and footwork?


if you wanted to see him in more exciting fights, that's cool. A domination is a domination with or without a ko

in 49 fights dude may have had 2-3 competitive fights, that's impressive.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yea Pac is but you have to look at it through the confines of where Pac was in his earlier years. Pac fought like Spence when at bantamweight and even featherweight. He was a big guy for that weight and had the durability, like Spence, to nullify opponent's offense with hard nose power attacks

Yeah and I've seen that but you can also see that Pacquiao possessed the talent to do so. I don't see it with Spence, he just seems too stiff for my liking. It doesn't come natural to him. Spence is a far better fighter than the guy I'm about to mention but that issue of his reminds me of Devon Alexander and that's why he gets hit cleanly. You can't look to pick shots off entirely, you gotta move your head/ upper body.

[MurkaMan]

He's getting away with being "sloppy" because he can. He hasn't had any problem with an opponent being to powerful..yet. But my prediction is that no one at 147 can beat his offense with a defensive strategy. That goes for Bradley, Thurman and Garcia.

Yea but if he doesnt tighten up he will have problems in the future, and I dont think Thurman is a walk in the park. Spence's defense is awful. He just overwhelms people and gets exhausted in the process!

[GrandpaBernard]

Spence is Spence.

He has one of the most unique styles I seen.

Southpaw with a GREAT jab money shot right hook and pressure fighter

[PivotandRoll]

can you comprehend what you read? I didnt call de jesus a no name.

where was i putting down duran? did he not lose to estban de jesus in his prime? did he not lose to kirkland lainge, and other no names in his career at an age where floyd was dominating better opposition and being criticized for every opponent not named pacquaio from 2010-2015?

de jesus was a good fighter, but was he on the level of Mosley, Pac, or even canelo? no....he lost most of his big fights, he had talent but was no ATG

Estaban De Jesus in his prime is easily better than Canelo/ Mosley and Manny that Floyd fought you complete tool. You literally just prove you don't know what you are talking about.

Who is the higher level fighters Floyd was dominating? Baldomir? Judah? Or was it his war with Augustus or close shaves with Castillo?

YOU TALK UTTER BU!!*****

Floyd has fought better names than Duran....seriously you are an embarrassing loser. You are the kinda TMT loser Floyd hates to be associated with.

[PivotandRoll]

Spence is Spence.

He has one of the most unique styles I seen.

Southpaw with a GREAT jab money shot right hook and pressure fighter

Not see any similarities to Quintana?


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Quintana lacked the proper backing and dedication in his career, Spence doesn't seem to suffer from this.