Looking Like Errol Spence will run 147 soon should Porter should be next opponent

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  • PivotandRoll
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    #51
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    Broner would be a world champion right now and probably undefeated if said screw that half ass shoulder roll(he only has it 50-60% down) and simply fight out of a conventional stance and let his hands go

    he looks special when he lets his hands go...he isnt floyd...doesnt have the accuracy or timing although his is good but he cant depend on landing potshots vs busy opponents. Thats why he has loses to Maidana and Porter....he could have beat Porter if he was busier.
    I agree so much. I think it was the 3rd or 4th round of the Taylor fight but Broner turned it on out of no where, was changing angles, heights, blazing handspeed, activity. Then the next round it was gone.

    He suffers from his mentality. His whole style is based around looking cool while he fights. Although I do think his countering is of the highest level when he's switched on, His yoyoing in weight takes split seconds from his timing for me.

    The Porter lose is almost depressing in the sense he didn't even try to win...He just wanted to steal a victory and it showed.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #52
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      He did get hit consistently by the same punches against Bundu. Algieri didn't exactly have problems hitting him either. Needs to move that head a little bit. You can especially see the criticisms about his stiffness in his defense.

      Right now he's overpowering fighters, and you can't always rely on that against better fighters.
      Yeah he walks straight in and drops his hands when he throws. And after seeing Lartey turn him noodle-legged, I'm not all that convinced about his chin either.

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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Yeah he walks straight in and drops his hands when he throws. And after seeing Lartey turn him noodle-legged, I'm not all that convinced about his chin either.
        Yea, i think Spence is a good up and coming fighter. But to me he seems quite stiff to me when he is throwing punches, which makes his punches slower. With his level of comp. its no problem for him to crush them but when he step up to world level its not as easy and his flaws will come out more.

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          #54
          Originally posted by PivotandRoll
          I agree so much. I think it was the 3rd or 4th round of the Taylor fight but Broner turned it on out of no where, was changing angles, heights, blazing handspeed, activity. Then the next round it was gone.

          He suffers from his mentality. His whole style is based around looking cool while he fights. Although I do think his countering is of the highest level when he's switched on, His yoyoing in weight takes split seconds from his timing for me.

          The Porter lose is almost depressing in the sense he didn't even try to win...He just wanted to steal a victory and it showed.
          its like he refused to change his style because it was supposed to be an easy fight and he was supposed to time Porter.

          He just needs to get his head straight, the talent is there, he needs to be dedicated. 140 is his division and he is the only one, if dedicated. that can be competitive with Bud there.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            Yeah man, you see it too! I think part of his problem is he doesnt turn angles well and he would need that against Spence, leaning straight back would get him decapitated but Broners speed and stinging punches would get him some respect for a while.
            out of the conventional stance I think he'd be able to get more shots off and his pull counter wouldnt be so telegraphed.

            He is a good fighter....I wish he'd drop stafford....he has developed any top pros...he is a great amatuer trainer but he pretty much lets the fighters call the shots

            didnt he train Slicky Ricky Williams, 2000 olympic silvcer medallist

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              #56
              Originally posted by boxinghead530
              Thurman boxed very well and had to dig deep against a strong relentless and very motivated to win Porter when they fought. That showed me a lot about Thurman and has me thinking when the going gets tough in a fight Thurman knows how to respond.

              Spence has never had to go through that kind of fight as his Comp. level has been so bad.

              For what ive seen so far youd have to make Thurman the favorite to win. Maybe Spence can beat Thurman but going by his competition you have to go with Thurman. Spence to me seems a little to slow off the blocks when he punches which i believe Thurman can expoit.
              it showed a lot but the time he spent loading up on counters and moving around being negative styled, he could have established a jab and placed his shots...a lot of what he does looks forced.

              imo spence places his shots better, doesnt waste as much movement, and in a grueling fight it could be the difference.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Luilun
                If Thurman lands he can take you out and he's a good finisher
                Thurman has not showed this since stepping up competition

                he has good power, but he has become a 147 version of david haye.....he blasts the overmatched guys and he boxes the more dangerous guys.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  it showed a lot but the time he spent loading up on counters and moving around being negative styled, he could have established a jab and placed his shots...a lot of what he does looks forced.

                  imo spence places his shots better, doesnt waste as much movement, and in a grueling fight it could be the difference.
                  I here ya. But spence is quite stiff when he throws punches which wastes lots of energy too. He may have decent punch placement but his punches don't seem to flow all that smooth or naturally. To me he's just a little to stiff in there. That can be a big problem when fighting top level guys. He can get away with it now because his level of opponent is so bad but Thurman is a beast and at the top of his game.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by boxinghead530
                    I here ya. But spence is quite stiff when he throws punches which wastes lots of energy too. He may have decent punch placement but his punches don't seem to flow all that smooth or naturally. To me he's just a little to stiff in there. That can be a big problem when fighting top level guys. He can get away with it now because his level of opponent is so bad but Thurman is a beast and at the top of his game.
                    yea he is stiff, lacks head movement after he throws....could get clipped....well he will, and then we'll see how good his whiskers are

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                    • John Locke
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Kigali
                      Says a GGG fanboy.

                      Don't you want to see Golovkin's heart and will tested???

                      What about that other foreigner,Bivol?
                      Don't you want to see his heart and will tested??

                      Seems like there is double standard going on with you casual mofos.
                      You're a fully grown man who spends every day of his life trolling on a boxing forum. Take a long, hard look at yourself in the mirror you degenerate bum bandit.

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