Is Lennox Lewis the GOAT?

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  • Sun_Tzu
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    #61
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Clumsy and a 1-2 puncher? GTFO you know nothing about Lewis stop pretending you do.

    I watched every fight he had live in the 90s. Stop pretending he is something he isnt. The guy got knocked the *** out by Oliver McCall ( a career sparring partner) and Hasim Rahman with one punch. He was clumsy and uncoordinated, the only reason he got to the stature he did was because of Manny Steward, period. If he would have stayed with Pepe he would have been a footnote in boxing history. He was huge for his day. The thing is he wanted it more than Bowe did because a focused Rididck Bowe would have destroyed Lewis but he was scared of Lewis. Im not talking sideways here, Im telling the truth. You want to think Lewis was the ATG HW more power to ya but he wasnt.

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    • Derranged
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      #62
      70's Foreman knocks him out and most other heavyweights for that matter.

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      • Sun_Tzu
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        #63
        Originally posted by Derranged
        70's Foreman knocks him out and most other heavyweights for that matter.
        Thats some truth these mfers dont want to hear. people let the Ali fight define George. Ali had this inhuman ability to take punishment. George in the 70s was a scary mfer.He was a calmer gentler version of himself when he came back at 37.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
          Thats some truth these mfers dont want to hear. people let the Ali fight define George. Ali had this inhuman ability to take punishment. George in the 70s was a scary mfer.He was a calmer gentler version of himself when he came back at 37.
          Both were rare breeds.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
            Thats some truth these mfers dont want to hear. people let the Ali fight define George. Ali had this inhuman ability to take punishment. George in the 70s was a scary mfer.He was a calmer gentler version of himself when he came back at 37.
            " Actually, the old George Foreman would’ve given Ali a tougher fight. But the young George, with his wild swings, my guy would’ve beaten him all night. George, as an old guy, he was relaxed, steady and he would grind you down " – A,Dundee

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            • DinoCop
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              #66
              Lewis was one of those heavies who had elagance. Prolly he'd be #1 ranked hw today. I have noone to watch in todays hw divison. Klits, Ant Jos, DAv Haye, Tyson Fury, Deontr Wilder are jokes compared to Lewis.

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              • Fury4daWIN
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                #67
                Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                The 4 you named, Micheal Moorer at his best takes Wlad, Tommy Morrison wouldnt be playing with this giant and he would put haha, dat hook on em, sleepy sleep. Golata knocks him out, Ray mercer ****s him up and I dont know if you remember this old fat dude named George Foreman, he kills him to and last but most definitley not least Evander the mutha ***in real deal Holyfield comes in and beats Wlad to death. There is your ten and there a few fringe guys that would get him to. If you insist I can give you them too. Bert Cooper for one if he landed would put Wlads lights out.

                Wlad ruled in a bad era, Ii aint gonna take nothing from him because he got it done. He wouldnt have been anything in the early/mid 90s, now Vitali is a different story and we all know hy.

                My bad, you mentioned Evander. Hell a focused Buster Douglas would kill Wlad, the dude isnt that good bro. Tyson Fury shut him down.
                Can't say I agree with you on most of those names, but thanks all the same. Mercer, you probably know, was already destroyed by Wlad, albeit an old Mercer, but I can't see what a younger version does much differently. Not sure what Moorer does that leads you to think he beats either man.

                I do agree there were a lot of fringe guys that could have got to either man if the stars were right. McCall and Briggs, Gary Mason, Ike, Golota. Lots of bad MFers back then.

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                • stefjonno1
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  He got caught it happens. He beat them in rematches.



                  It don't happen to Muhammad Ali.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by stefjonno1
                    It don't happen to Muhammad Ali.
                    Henry Cooper knocked him senseless and they stuck smelling salts under his nose (which is illegal) in the corner to wake him up.



                    Dundee admitting he was buying time for Ali to recover in the corner.
                    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 08-20-2016, 11:39 AM.

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                    • stefjonno1
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                      Henry Cooper knocked him senseless and they stuck smelling salts under his nose (which is illegal) in the corner to wake him up.


                      I Know I've seen the fight lol, and he went on to stop him in the next round.

                      Then also went another 30 fight's or so in the toughest HW division and was never KO'D. Obviously the Holmes fight was ended by Dundee but Ali was never KO'D like lewis was.

                      You said it happens, I said it don't to Muhammad Ali! Am I lying?

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