Is Lennox Lewis the GOAT?

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  • soul_survivor
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
    Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko can beat 99% of the heavyweights of all time
    He couldnt beat Fury....

    On a more serious level, with regards to OP, Lewis can probably beat about 90% of heavies in history but when it comes to the more dynamic fighters, such as Ali, Holmes, Frazier, Tyson (prime obvs) then no, Lewis is just too limited. His jab, jab, clinch, right hand isn't going to work.

    Ali, because of his skill set, resilience, speed, reflexes and combinations has the best shot of beating them all.

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    • Sun_Tzu
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      #52
      Originally posted by Slick..Slayer
      42.

      You're biased and too locked on the era of boxing you grew up with. It's not a matter of boxing knowledge man, it's common sense. A focused prime Lewis and prime Vitali would be way too much for the little guys.

      Im only biased towards Louis. I dont like Ali or Homes as people and to be real honest with you I rooted against them. The fact of the matter is you haven't named any one that could beat them and if I had to choose between the three Holmes is the better fighter.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
        Im only biased towards Louis. I dont like Ali or Homes as people and to be real honest with you I rooted against them. The fact of the matter is you haven't named any one that could beat them and if I had to choose between the three Holmes is the better fighter.
        Ali would have the best chance IMO. But he would get knocked out midfight to Lewis and picked apart and KO'd by Vitali late fight

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          #54
          H2H Lewis is top 5.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Weltschmerz
            H2H Lewis is top 5.
            What's your top 5 Welts?

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #56
              Originally posted by Slick..Slayer
              What's your top 5 Welts?
              At heavy, H2H at their prime, any order

              Lewis
              Ali
              Vitali
              Holmes
              Tyson

              Historically/resume wise I'd need a more thorough consideration and still my list could change every month. Then I have some personal favorites too like Dempsey, Marciano, Tunney.

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              • Sun_Tzu
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                #57
                Originally posted by Slick..Slayer
                Ali would have the best chance IMO. But he would get knocked out midfight to Lewis and picked apart and KO'd by Vitali late fight

                We all have our opinions. The curious thing to me is you think Lewis would knock Ali out. George couldnt take him out but Lewis would? Lennox was a mentally weak huge mfer, he did what he did because of Emanual Steward. Bowe could have easily beat him but Lewis was in his head from the Olympics. You are close to my age, you should know how different the men were from that era. We are the last of the real men. Im not hating Im just telling the truth. I mean Lewis got sparked by B and C level fighters, come on. You dont really have an argument here other than your bias I think. Ali was a bad mfer but ill be honest I held a grudge on him because of the way he treated his opponents. Holmes makes fools of Lewis and the Klit brothers.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                  We all have our opinions. The curious thing to me is you think Lewis would knock Ali out. George couldnt take him out but Lewis would? Lennox was a mentally weak huge mfer, he did what he did because of Emanual Steward. Bowe could have easily beat him but Lewis was in his head from the Olympics. You are close to my age, you should know how different the men were from that era. We are the last of the real men. Im not hating Im just telling the truth. I mean Lewis got sparked by B and C level fighters, come on. You dont really have an argument here other than your bias I think. Ali was a bad mfer but ill be honest I held a grudge on him because of the way he treated his opponents. Holmes makes fools of Lewis and the Klit brothers.
                  Foreman fought a dumb fight against Ali. Lewis would have broke Ali down slowly and stopped him. You're underrating Lewis's skills he wasn't a bad inside fighter, he could do it all.

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                  • Sun_Tzu
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    Foreman fought a dumb fight against Ali. Lewis would have broke Ali down slowly and stopped him. You're underrating Lewis's skills he wasn't a bad inside fighter, he could do it all.
                    Im not underrating anything, Lewis won almost every fight he won on his size and strength alone. Holmes and Ali would have made him look like a fool. I think Holmes would have knocked him out late. Look , I said he owned his era and he did. He isnt beating Ali nor Holmes and maybe you missed me saying I dont like either of the two guys I just mentioned. They were just better than Lewis. He was a clumsy 1-2 puncher with an occasional hook. He wasnt shiet until Manny Steward took him under his wing and i mean he wasnt shiet.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                      Im not underrating anything, Lewis won almost every fight he won on his size and strength alone. Holmes and Ali would have made him look like a fool. I think Holmes would have knocked him out late. Look , I said he owned his era and he did. He isnt beating Ali nor Holmes and maybe you missed me saying I dont like either of the two guys I just mentioned. They were just better than Lewis. He was a clumsy 1-2 puncher with an occasional hook. He wasnt shiet until Manny Steward took him under his wing and i mean he wasnt shiet.
                      Clumsy and a 1-2 puncher? GTFO you know nothing about Lewis stop pretending you do.

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