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  • AllBoxingAD
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    #61
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Such a pity he was cleaned by VADA/WADA.
    Povetkin wasnt 'cleaned' or cleared by anyone.

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    • _Maxi
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      #62
      Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
      Povetkin wasnt 'cleaned' or cleared by anyone.
      No? is he still under investigation? explain me.

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        #63
        They both presented evidence supporting their own claims and the WBC attempted to rule in favor of the more compelling argument.

        The other side has WADA's excretion studies, which suggested that concentrations of <1 microgram in tests between March 1st to September 30th may not be compelling evidence of use on Jan 1st or later when it is the only available evidence. See - https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....ium_notice.pdf

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        • Nay_Sayer
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          #64
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          Such a pity he was cleaned by VADA/WADA.
          Only in your mind...

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            #65
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            No? is he still under investigation? explain me.
            Actually yes, he is.

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              #66
              Originally posted by _Maxi
              Exactly, they don't know. Which means... they don't know! Except this Dr Eicher. He pretends to know when WADA already said they don't know.

              Did more search on the matter and this dr is a member of the: Technical Document on Sport Specific Analysis Expert Group so yes he's a member of WADA.

              However he is NOT representing WADA with these comments.

              It's his sole opinion and the WADA documents contradicts this man's opinion.

              He's a member of a minor panel if you take a look at the rest of the WADA team: https://www.wada-ama.org/en/governance

              There are at least one hundrer doctors.
              and again goes back to this:

              "testified that it would be impossible to test negative for meldonium three times and then test positive days later without having ingested it in the interim."

              which was his main point...

              you cant have 3 absolutely clean tests... and then a 4th one comes up with something in it.


              care to explain that yourself?

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                #67
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                In the same way that in a trial you have several judges, one judge can say A but if the rest say B, then the result of the trial is B.

                Otherwise you might believe that Canelo and Mayweather was a draw, for example.

                This is science. The official truth is that the meldonium excretion rate is still unknown.

                WADA is still investigating because if meldonium is stored in fat just as many other drugs, then it can be released into the blood system when the fat is being burned, even months after taking that particular drug.

                This dr doesn't think it's the case, but WADA is conformed by a hundred of doctors.
                How can they confirm something that is still being studied and is unknown?

                again you are contradicting yourself.

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                • _Maxi
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  and again goes back to this:

                  "testified that it would be impossible to test negative for meldonium three times and then test positive days later without having ingested it in the interim."

                  which was his main point...

                  you cant have 3 absolutely clean tests... and then a 4th one comes up with something in it.


                  care to explain that yourself?
                  If it was so easy why wasn't Povetkin banned? I already explained it twice in this thread.

                  However like I said before it's proven that some/most drugs can be stored in fat and then be released into the blood system months after consumption.
                  Do some googling for yourself..

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    How can they confirm something that is still being studied and is unknown?

                    again you are contradicting yourself.
                    Then how can this dr confirm the excretion rate of Meldonium? and how can you believe him if it's still under investigation?

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                    • _Maxi
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                      Actually yes, he is.
                      Tell me more.

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