IBF orders Ibragimov-Ruiz for Klitschko mandatory

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  • Nautilus
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    #21
    Originally posted by Gunstar1
    If he's such a non-factor, why nobody wants to fight him.

    Toney is a top 5 heavy and a defense genius-- that's why noone wants to fight him.

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    • beez721
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      #22
      Originally posted by Gunstar1
      I actually think Wlad will have trouble with Toney, that is if Toney is in shape like the Holyfield fight.
      thats a style dream for wlad and an absolutely stylistic nightmare for toney. toney is great at the shoulder roll to block those wide punches and hooks,,,but against a straight sharp shooter like wlad he'd be a sitting duck,,plus the fact he'd have no chance of getting inside that jab. he'd have a much better chance against peter who's much slower and throws his punches wider and longer

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      • Manny_P
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        #23
        Wlad vs Toney would be a great example of styles make fights. Toney won't get hurt in that fight and you have to wonder if Wlad takes Toney's accurate and stinging overright hands. Those punches are hard to see too.

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        • mECHsLAVE
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          #24
          Who are all these top fighters who want to fight Toney? If they do, it's because they know he brings a decent payday for little risk.

          Who has Toney ever beat to be a top 5 HW? He's beaten Booker and Guinn, and an ancient Holyfield 3 years ago. And he's failed in his two title shots. He's a non-factor, I say.

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          • Konstantin
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            #25
            Originally posted by $Manny_P$
            Wlad vs Toney would be a great example of styles make fights. Toney won't get hurt in that fight and you have to wonder if Wlad takes Toney's accurate and stinging overright hands. Those punches are hard to see too.
            If they fight I gaurentee you Toney will get hurt.

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            • JDizzle79
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              #26
              Originally posted by $Manny_P$
              Wlad vs Toney would be a great example of styles make fights. Toney won't get hurt in that fight and you have to wonder if Wlad takes Toney's accurate and stinging overright hands. Those punches are hard to see too.

              I actually think Wlad would punish Toney...just like Byrd.

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                #27
                Originally posted by $Manny_P$
                Wlad vs Toney would be a great example of styles make fights. Toney won't get hurt in that fight and you have to wonder if Wlad takes Toney's accurate and stinging overright hands. Those punches are hard to see too.

                Exactly, and as someone has already put it, it would be a nightmare style mismatch for Toney. Wlad can hit him all night without fighting him on the inside, unlike most others.

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                • mECHsLAVE
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                  #28
                  Wlad-Toney is such an absolute mismatch that I don't think I'd even pay for it. What would be the point of seeing a fat bowling ball get bounced around the ring?

                  Actually, I'm trying to think of a top 10 HW who Toney could beat...

                  Klitschko- NOPE- no explanation needed
                  Rahman- NOPE- just tried and failed miserably
                  Valuev- NOPE- probably too big for him
                  Lyakhovich- NOPE- Sergei's too active with too good of a jab
                  Brock- NOPE- too active, too determined to lose to a blob
                  Sultan- NOPE- Toney might actually get stopped if he tries rope-a-dope
                  Byrd- MAYBE- but doubtful. I'd favor Byrd in a close decision
                  Brewster- MAYBE- more promising for Toney, Lamon doesn't have a good jab
                  Peter- MAYBE- probably Toney's best shot at beating a top 10 HW, if Sam doesn't land.

                  To me, that doesn't make him much of a factor in the division. The only way he gets a title is if Maskaev somehow beats Rahman. Toney could beat Maskaev, but then he'd get obliterated by Wlad. But there's no way in hell Toney has even earned ANOTHER shot after failing in two consecutive title shots.

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                  • paulmmv
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                    #29
                    that would be awesome watching klitschko knock ruiz out

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                    • Leo Pradun
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Gunstar1
                      Actually Toney manages himself, I've heared Toney saying, that Wlad is ducking me just like the rest of the guys in HW division. Toney says that it's hard for him to get a fight, even Peter team turned him down now.
                      bull****t, toney is a piece of crap...

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