Comments Thread For: Klitschko Plans To Sue Tyson Fury, Rematch Now in Limbo!

[Jewish-Reptile]

You should never laugh at the disadvantaged, the Peckerwood's have done well to get this far in life with all the adversity they have faced to date, interbreeding is no joke and can have serious ramifications for your offspring, ask Fluff Furry himself.

[kafkod]

So, if we understand the issue correctly.. Fury was found guilty of doping which obviously was hidden by the great D agency UKAD, then he was supposed to be injured, is now trying to change the contract terms, his uncle claims all is good & he is back in training for 29-Oct & they have not even responded to the media's questions on the latest allegations..

In between all this Furry huggers are claiming Wlad is trying get VADA & he was never tested himself & obviously the Jews framed him..

Jewish Reptile, Weltschmerz - is that what we have so far ??

You don't understand the issue correctly.

What you need to understand first is that Fury has not been found guilty of anything. His guilt or innocence will be decided when his case goes to a tribunal in Nov.

Last June, on the basis of a test that happened in Feb or March 2015, UKAD decided to accuse Fury of taking nandrolone and suspended his licence to fight. Fury then took them to court and a judge ordered UKAD to lift their suspension so Fury could carry on fighting while waiting for his case to be settled.

That's all we know at the moment.

[BoxingFan85]

You don't understand the issue correctly.

What you need to understand first is that Fury has not been found guilty of anything. His guilt or innocence will be decided when his case goes to a tribunal in Nov.

Last June, on the basis of a test that happened in Feb or March 2015, UKAD decided to accuse Fury of taking nandrolone and suspended his licence to fight. Fury then took them to court and a judge ordered UKAD to lift their suspension so Fury could carry on fighting while waiting for his case to be settled.

That's all we know at the moment.

Well then Shouldn't the rematch be scheduled after the tribunal!? I mean it makes sense if you have a pending case and your name isn't cleared or if it is and that it was false allegations in the first place.. Why does team Fury keep saying the rematch is on 29-Oct when the contract, venue, cases nothing have been finalized..

I am happy to see a rematch, the fans deserve to see if these two can make a fight of it..

[vitali1999]

It is not new. Remember how Rahman did not want to fight Lewis second time around (probably envisioned what is coming his way) and Lewis had to take him to court, preventing him from fighting somebody else before rematch. I can see some parallels here.

Yes I remember, Lewis also almost had to take Tyson to court. Let's not forget Bowe throwing the WBC belt away rather than fight Lewis. Lewis was the most avoided HW of my time

[kafkod]

Well then Shouldn't the rematch be scheduled after the tribunal!? I mean it makes sense if you have a pending case and your name isn't cleared or if it is and that it was false allegations in the first place.. Why does team Fury keep saying the rematch is on 29-Oct when the contract, venue, cases nothing have been finalized..

I am happy to see a rematch, the fans deserve to see if these two can make a fight of it..

Who knows what the status of the rematch is now, but it had already been scheduled for Oct 29th when UKAD suddenly brought a charge against Fury and suspended his licence.

They suspended him on the basis of a test result obtained in Feb or March 2015, when he was training for the first fight with Wlad. According to Fury, he was told back then that the dodgy result had probably been caused by a contaminated dietary supplement, and that no action would be taken against him. He also said that a UKAD dietician had given him advice on what foods and supplements to use to avoid generating high levels of nandrolone in future. (Nandrolone is a naturally occuring hormone)

So why did they allow the first fight to go ahead, and a rematch to be scheduled, before acting on that result? And why did a judge order them to lift their suspension after Fury took them to court?

That's never happened before. When Dillian Whyte and Kid Galahad were popped by UKAD tests they were suspended within weeks and stayed suspended till their cases went to the tribunal. Whyte had a fight scheduled and had to cancel it because of his provisional suspension.

[BoxingFan85]

Who knows what the status of the rematch is now, but it had already been scheduled for Oct 29th when UKAD suddenly brought a charge against Fury and suspended his licence.

It was never scheduled on that date.. that was the date team Fury floated about & Wlad's team kept on insisting it is not confirmed for that date..

They suspended him on the basis of a test result obtained in Feb or March 2015, when he was training for the first fight with Wlad. According to Fury, he was told back then that the dodgy result had probably been caused by a contaminated dietary supplement, and that no action would be taken against him. He also said that a UKAD dietician had given him advice on what foods and supplements to use to avoid generating high levels of nandrolone in future. (Nandrolone is a naturally occuring hormone)

The bolded is the dodgy thing about the whole issue.. Ok you popped something contaminated, never do it again ok?? --> Who does that kind of ish.. Where was the B sample? The next samples were taken when? March & May- how convenient..

So why did they allow the first fight to go ahead, and a rematch to be scheduled, before acting on that result? And why did a judge order them to lift their suspension after Fury took them to court?

That is what UKAD has to answer for now.. & frankly all this UKAD all year long testing is a load of BS.. UKAD ain't a credible agency if it cannot be fair & consistent..


Think about it, if Povetkin/Wilder had been in the same case.. Would you be defending them ?? - Thought so...

[kafkod]

It was never scheduled on that date.. that was the date team Fury floated about & Wlad's team kept on insisting it is not confirmed for that date..



The bolded is the dodgy thing about the whole issue.. Ok you popped something contaminated, never do it again ok?? --> Who does that kind of ish.. Where was the B sample? The next samples were taken when? March & May- how convenient..


That is what UKAD has to answer for now.. & frankly all this UKAD all year long testing is a load of BS.. UKAD ain't a credible agency if it cannot be fair & consistent..


Think about it, if Povetkin/Wilder had been in the same case.. Would you be defending them ?? - Thought so...

There was a B sample, and according to Peter Fury, it was clean. A follow up blood sample test was done, and that was ok too.

Not sure what you implying with Povetkin and Wilder, but my stance on any boxer regarding PED's is the same - they are clean until proven to be dirty.

My opinion on Povetkin's positive test was that, as meldonium is not a naturally occuring substance, the fight had to be postponed so his results could be investigated. But, as his levels were within accepted limits for historical use of meldonium, which had only recently been banned, he should not be punished unless it was proven that he had used meldonium after the ban was brought in.

UKAD have caught and banned at least 3 UK boxers that I know of during the last few years, and athletes in other sports too. In every one of those cases, they suspended the athlete concerned immediately after the positive test. And they have never before been ordered by a high court judge to lift a provisional suspension after it was imposed. So Fury's case is very unusual indeed.

[BoxingFan85]

There was a B sample, and according to Peter Fury, it was clean. A follow up blood sample test was done, and that was ok too.

That was from team Fury never from UKAD..

UKAD have caught and banned at least 3 UK boxers that I know of during the last few years, and athletes in other sports too. In every one of those cases, they suspended the athlete concerned immediately after the positive test. And they have never before been ordered by a high court judge to lift a provisional suspension after it was imposed. So Fury's case is very unusual indeed.

No.. Tony Thompson was not suspended until what 1year of the test post fight?

[kafkod]

That was from team Fury never from UKAD..



No.. Tony Thompson was not suspended until what 1year of the test post fight?

Now these 2 points are linked, because UKAD have a policy of revealing NOTHING about positive tests, or bans imposed as a result of them, until the bans have been completed.

The media and the fans only get to find out about athletes being banned when they are unable to compete or, as in Fury's case, somebody leaks it to the press.

Tony Thompson was actually banned by UKAD within weeks of his fight with Price. But because he isn't licenced in the UK, they only had the power to ban him from competing over here, not anywhere else, so nobody knew anything about it.

Even Price himself was only told about TT's ban after it expired last June.

Edit: If you look at UKAD's website you will see a long list of sanctions they have imposed. But the only info given is the sport involved and the illegal substance that was used. If you want to find out the athlete's name and the punishment they recieved you have to contact UKAD and request that info.

[paulf]

Everyone just needs to take a breath. This is a very unusual case and the bottom line is that we don't know the details, so arguing it is pretty pointless right now.

Tyson and Hughie both suspended. The injury. The a-side was dirty but the b-side was clean... I mean, I can't remember the last time that actually happened. UKAD staying silent on everything for ages and then suspending him. It's just a big mess and we have to sit tight and wait.