the term BORING means "wins fights clearly/hard to beat" on NSB

[The Big Dunn]

If he gets to the record for most title defenses and continues his KO streak, why not? Like you guys always used to say, "he beats everyone they put in front of him".

How come that doesn't work in this case?

For me its because his defenses and KO streaks are a function of fighting men like Wade, Ouma, and a string of no hopers who are at least 7-1 or 8-1 underdogs.

That statement implies boxers are in front of you, not dishwashers and garbagemen.

It doesn't work here because posters like you in the past said the statement wasn't good at analyzing a fighter. You guys decided the better way to analyze a fighter is by drilling down into his resume to check the quality not just the names. Then you would point out the opponents flaws as a way of lowering a fighter his fans elevated.

Why aren't you doing that here with GGG?

[therealpugilist]

For me its because his defenses and KO streaks are a function of fighting men like Wade, Ouma, and a string of no hopers who are at least 7-1 or 8-1 underdogs.

That statement implies boxers are in front of you, not dishwashers and garbagemen.

It doesn't work here because posters like you in the past said the statement wasn't good at analyzing a fighter. You guys decided the better way to analyze a fighter is by drilling down into his resume to check the quality not just the names. Then you would point out the opponents flaws as a way of lowering a fighter his fans elevated.

Why aren't you doing that here with GGG?

do the defenses even matter....when he got the belt he fougth a no name for it and held the "regular title" then got elevated, he didnt even fight for the title......also he isnt lineal so what defenses?

what record? alphabet title defenses?

[therealpugilist]

But its the supposed "real fans", who are always talking about ppvs, and money, and neilson ratings. You cats are always talking about "Boxing is a business".

But what makes the guys you brought up worth more than who he has already beat?

Nothing.

if you have to ask that, you dont know ***** about boxing....the guys i mentioned at top 3 in their division.....GGG is fighting unranked guys and welterweights and you really dont see the difference

[Vasyl’s dad]

if you have to ask that, you dont know ***** about boxing....the guys i mentioned at top 3 in their division.....GGG is fighting unranked guys and welterweights and you really dont see the difference

But you said GGG needs to fight a name fighter, those dudes are nobody. Beating them is no different than beating anyone at 160. Dude has beat 7 top 10 guys at 160, and here you are still leaking, calling for the amberlamps.

[Vasyl’s dad]

For me its because his defenses and KO streaks are a function of fighting men like Wade, Ouma, and a string of no hopers who are at least 7-1 or 8-1 underdogs.

That statement implies boxers are in front of you, not dishwashers and garbagemen.

It doesn't work here because posters like you in the past said the statement wasn't good at analyzing a fighter. You guys decided the better way to analyze a fighter is by drilling down into his resume to check the quality not just the names. Then you would point out the opponents flaws as a way of lowering a fighter his fans elevated.

Why aren't you doing that here with GGG?

So how is ward pfp # 1?

[cork]

For me its because his defenses and KO streaks are a function of fighting men like Wade, Ouma, and a string of no hopers who are at least 7-1 or 8-1 underdogs.

That statement implies boxers are in front of you, not dishwashers and garbagemen.

It doesn't work here because posters like you in the past said the statement wasn't good at analyzing a fighter. You guys decided the better way to analyze a fighter is by drilling down into his resume to check the quality not just the names. Then you would point out the opponents flaws as a way of lowering a fighter his fans elevated.

Why aren't you doing that here with GGG?

But ggg is at least a 5/1 odds against everyone in his division. You guys give him flak but then turn around and praise Crawford for postol when Crawford was a 7/1 favorite. At least be consistent with your standards.

[Trayhezy]

There are a lot of poster on NSB who claim to be fans of boxing but expose themselves daily as casual fans or fans of fighters.

The beauty of the sport of boxing is that there are so many different styles. If you don't like a particular style....dont watch. Why ***** and complain about it being boring just don't watch.

For every Mike Tyson there is a Sweet Pea, for every Duran there is a Willie Pep.

I like a skilled defensive fighter who neutralizes an opponents offense like Ward, and I also like a guy that can bash like Kov. So I am excited to see these two in the ring together. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

I haven't watch GGG since the Monroe fight, because I find it boring seeing him fight no hopers.

People here have called Floyd boring. I think that is nonsense. When he was beating the brakes off Gatti and Correles he was far from boring.

The first Maidana fight was far from boring. Why? because Maidana decided he was going to go balls to the wall and NOT LET Floyd pot shot him for 12 rounds. Floyd showed his excellent in-fighting skills and came away with a victory.

Floyd Pac was boring because Pac came to collect a check and not get knocked out. Hence he said "if he stop moving, I hit him".

It is not Floyd's job to stop moving, it is Pac's job to cut him off and make him fight like Maidana did.

If you find a guy boring, then he will stay that way unless he is in with a guy that can pressure him into doing something different.

Ward will always be boring to some until someone forces him into a fight where he has to do something different. GGG will be questioned by many until he is in with someone who can force him into fighting a different style.

That is what boxing is in a nutshell. One guy IMPOSING his will/style on his opponent. The great ones do it better than the rest.

[The Big Dunn]

But ggg is at least a 5/1 odds against everyone in his division. You guys give him flak but then turn around and praise Crawford for postol when Crawford was a 7/1 favorite. At least be consistent with your standards.

I picked Postol to win the fight as a 6-1 underdog. I gave Crawford credit for his performance the same way I give GGG credit for his skillset.

My point about his KO and defenses streak is its not as organic as some of his fans suggest. An example is Sergio Mora. He tried to fight GGG years ago. HBO wouldn't approve that fight.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648824

A few posters felt GGG was going to win he just was less likely to get a KO given Mora's awkward style.

In fairness, I believe GGG and his team eventually made Mora an offer.

[therealpugilist]

But you said GGG needs to fight a name fighter, those dudes are nobody. Beating them is no different than beating anyone at 160. Dude has beat 7 top 10 guys at 160, and here you are still leaking, calling for the amberlamps.

None go those "7 top ten" fighters can hold a candle to James Degale and arent as dangerous as Badou jack, Zurda is a big sturdy guy with some power


you really think Martin Murray and Geale are more dangerous than DeGale...a gold medallist and #1 at 168?

be a man and admit you are afraid GGG would lose if comp gets stiffer

[therealpugilist]

There are a lot of poster on NSB who claim to be fans of boxing but expose themselves daily as casual fans or fans of fighters.

The beauty of the sport of boxing is that there are so many different styles. If you don't like a particular style....dont watch. Why ***** and complain about it being boring just don't watch.

For every Mike Tyson there is a Sweet Pea, for every Duran there is a Willie Pep.

I like a skilled defensive fighter who neutralizes an opponents offense like Ward, and I also like a guy that can bash like Kov. So I am excited to see these two in the ring together. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

I haven't watch GGG since the Monroe fight, because I find it boring seeing him fight no hopers.

People here have called Floyd boring. I think that is nonsense. When he was beating the brakes off Gatti and Correles he was far from boring.

The first Maidana fight was far from boring. Why? because Maidana decided he was going to go balls to the wall and NOT LET Floyd pot shot him for 12 rounds. Floyd showed his excellent in-fighting skills and came away with a victory.

Floyd Pac was boring because Pac came to collect a check and not get knocked out. Hence he said "if he stop moving, I hit him".

It is not Floyd's job to stop moving, it is Pac's job to cut him off and make him fight like Maidana did.

If you find a guy boring, then he will stay that way unless he is in with a guy that can pressure him into doing something different.

Ward will always be boring to some until someone forces him into a fight where he has to do something different. GGG will be questioned by many until he is in with someone who can force him into fighting a different style.

That is what boxing is in a nutshell. One guy IMPOSING his will/style on his opponent. The great ones do it better than the rest.

^^^great post.