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  • MartinC
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    #11
    Originally posted by 1g5a22
    Why does America only have one.. Champion from 160 up?
    Legit drug testing.

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    • -PBP-
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      #12


      The admiration is real

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      • CHOWWOKKA
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        #13
        Originally posted by g27region
        OP forgot to mention that Americans have only one undefeated champ with a solid resume in pro boxing

        The only thing that Americans can do right now is remembering these old ass times when pro boxing wasn't international and other fighters from some certain countries weren't allowed to participate so Americans didn't have any competition. That's why their ATGs are only americans.

        These old times when others weren't able to participate - this is the last excuse that Americans have, actually.

        But nobody wants to hear that **** right now, who cares what happened in the past, that's not an excuse why your ass is not relevant at this current moment.

        And they won't even be able to use that last excuse after 10-15 years from now
        Daaaamn how long were you waiting to get this off your chest

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        • g27region
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          #14
          Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
          Daaaamn how long were you waiting to get this off your chest
          Since the moment I've noticed that most of American boxing fans here don't respect fighters from other parts of the world, so I don't have to give any respect back.
          Last edited by g27region; 08-15-2016, 12:33 PM.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #15
            The US isn't building boxers with its amateur system like it used. USA Boxing is a shadow of what it was when I started following boxing.

            There are more MMA gyms in my bigger metro type area than boxing gyms. It looks like most bigger cities have similar situation. Thus its harder for people to be exposed to boxing.

            I also think the US has become a country where alot of the younger people are these mfers who came up with trophies for everyone & talk of f#cking mircoaggressions & triggers & **** like that. These are not the types of competitive people who are down for getting hit in the head as a possible career or fun past time that could lead into a career.

            Probably several more reasons that the US isn't as strong as it used to be. And obviously it doesn't hurt that alot of other countries have created strong amateur communities in their countries & support there boxers growth.

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            • lopetego
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              #16
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              how many europeans are in the hall of fame, or all time greats for that matter?
              There would be a ton of them if it wasn't for fat yanks manipulating and monopolizing boxing for decades and the cold war ****

              Now that yanks cant hide anymore behind the iron curtain and ex-communist countries are allowed to participate in pro boxing, the u.s dominace is gone, and it's not a coincidence. U.S boxers were never that good, they just didn't have proper competition
              Last edited by lopetego; 08-15-2016, 12:39 PM.

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              • therealpugilist
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                #17
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                don't feed the trolls.
                i like to see them react to reality

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                • therealpugilist
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by lopetego
                  There would be a ton of them if it wasn't for fat yanks manipulating and monopolizing boxing for decades and the cold war ****

                  Now that yanks cant hide anymore behind the iron curtain and ex-communist countries are allowed to participate in pro boxing, the u.s dominace is gone, and it's not a coincidence. U.S boxers were never that good, they just didn't have proper competition
                  .....sounds like excuses to me....the only european countries arent the former soviet ones....

                  If they were never that good....why did postol lose to Crawford? Algieri beat Prvodnikov.....Broner beat the breaks of Khabib Allakhverdiev

                  the europeans are doing well for themselves...lets just leave it at that....competitive fights is what we want as fans.

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                  • 1g5a22
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    how many europeans are in the hall of fame, or all time greats for that matter?
                    You mean the HOF in New York (USA) resided over mainly by the Boxing Writers Association of AMERICA? You do know that many 1000's of great haven't got inducted don't you? (Holyfield,Barrera, Tapia, Tszyu, Klitschko are just recent examples) Does the HOF mean there are only 100 (or whatever the Number is) great fighters in boxing history? Most Asian, Soviet & Cubans didn't even box pro or bother with it up until recently. Media & globalisation has begun the power shift & charge in foreign interest though! Look at the list of current champions! To answer your question though.. 70 is my count though I could be wrong. Though it doesn't really matter to me because I don't hanker onto past glories really & put huge stock into nepotistic US institutions.. I live in 2016. I suspect in 25 years time or so a huge amount of Europeans & Asians will have & continue to enter the HOF.

                    Why do u only have Wilder the human stick insect representing u above 160?

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                    • 1g5a22
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      The US isn't building boxers with its amateur system like it used. USA Boxing is a shadow of what it was when I started following boxing.

                      There are more MMA gyms in my bigger metro type area than boxing gyms. It looks like most bigger cities have similar situation. Thus its harder for people to be exposed to boxing.

                      I also think the US has become a country where alot of the younger people are these mfers who came up with trophies for everyone & talk of f#cking mircoaggressions & triggers & **** like that. These are not the types of competitive people who are down for getting hit in the head as a possible career or fun past time that could lead into a career.

                      Probably several more reasons that the US isn't as strong as it used to be. And obviously it doesn't hurt that alot of other countries have created strong amateur communities in their countries & support there boxers growth.
                      Or maybe the rest of the word is just catching up?

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