What made Vitali difficult to beat?

[deathofaclown]

He was winning 4 rounds to 2. Lewis was tired as chit. lol@ "lewis was coming on". Thats the same thing people say when Ortiz was down almost every round against floyd before the stoppage, "but ortiz was coming on"

what a joke.

Ortiz wasn't coming on though. Floyd was going to Gatti him. Ortiz was having a decent 20 seconds or so and even then all he was doing was pushing Floyd back. He still couldn't land a shot.

Lewis caved Vitali's face in and stopped him in 6. Job done.

[MisterPullman]

But he lost..and thats all i posted was that he lost..hell Lewis took the fight on short notice as well then right?? both were in training for other fights

Don't get me wrong, Lewis is a better boxer. But I think Vitali is massively underrated and deserved a rematch with Lewis. Lewis ran after promising and that's all that matters. Like Canela did with GGG, "we don't fcuk around"

[juggernaut666]

Ortiz wasn't coming on though. Floyd was going to Gatti him. Ortiz was having a decent 20 seconds or so and even then all he was doing was pushing Floyd back. He still couldn't land a shot.

Lewis caved Vitali's face in and stopped him in 6. Job done.

Sorry but the punch count shows Lewis was the one declining in punches as the fight went on...Lewis self admits Vitali was tougher than he thought and not so easy...soon after those comments he decided to retire after watching Vitali dispose of Johnson ,who both Steward and Lewis picked to win.


Whats the real possibility is vitali should have FAKED a knock down against Johnson...I sure as hell bet Lewis would have taken the rematch in a heart beat and stayed to his word....

[MisterPullman]

Ortiz wasn't coming on though. Floyd was going to Gatti him. Ortiz was having a decent 20 seconds or so and even then all he was doing was pushing Floyd back. He still couldn't land a shot.

Lewis caved Vitali's face in and stopped him in 6. Job done.

Cedrick Agnew cut open Kovalevs eyes too. Remember? Luck plays a part I suppose but in no way is a boxer planning to win by a cut. Lewis knew what he was up against and ran for the hills after promising all the fans and to Vitali a rematch. That's what I never liked about Lewis. He was very ****y(which costed him some losses) and *****ed out of promises

[MisterPullman]

Sorry but the punch count shows Lewis was the one declining in punches as the fight went on...Lewis self admits Vitali was tougher than he thought and not so easy...soon after those comments he decided to retire after watching Vitali dispose of Johnson ,who both Steward and Lewis picked to win.


Whats the real possibility is vitali should have FAKED a knock down against Johnson...I sure as hell bet Lewis would have taken the rematch iart beat and stayed to his word....

Yup, and the funniest part is. Vitali stunned him in that fight, made him wobble around

Prime Lewis and Prime Vitali I favor Lewis only slightly if he is focused and doesn't have his head up his ass. Quite frankly, prime Wlad would win a dirty fight against Lewis but likely lose on points verse his brother

[Derranged]

He was winning 4 rounds to 2. Lewis was tired as chit. lol@ "lewis was coming on". Thats the same thing people say when Ortiz was down almost every round against floyd before the stoppage, "but ortiz was coming on"

what a joke.





It was from a punch that landed while lewis was holding, which is illegal. The same emmanual stewart inside holding strategy that everyone says is boring and illegal when wlad does it but was "crafty" and skillful when lewis did it.

I'm pretty sure it was from an overhand right that Vitali tried to slip, not when they were in close.

[juggernaut666]

Yup, and the funniest part is. Vitali stunned him in that fight, made him wobble around

Prime Lewis and Prime Vitali I favor Lewis only slightly if he is focused and doesn't have his head up his ass. Quite frankly, prime Wlad would win a dirty fight against Lewis but likely lose on points verse his brother

The thing is vitali improved after the Lewis fight defensive wise ,im not so sure lewis would deal with Vitali b/c when it comes down nshot for shot which it would with these two ,I see Vitali landing more and finishing next time. Vitali is tougher...Lewis SLIGHLTY more effective as a boxer,but does the chin come into play and willingness to obliterate an opponent? which I give Vitali the edge if it came down to it......


Wlad and Lewis is 50/50....I think personally Wlad under steward was better...but that doesn't mean he beats Lewis,,,so?.......If Wlad defeats Fury/Joshua/Wilder hes no doubt the best ever nothing to discuss....we will see.....

[MisterPullman]

The thing is vitali improved after the Lewis fight defensive wise ,im not so sure lewis would deal with Vitali b/c when it comes down nshot for shot which it would with these two ,I see Vitali landing more and finishing next time. Vitali is tougher...Lewis SLIGHLTY more effective as a boxer,but does the chin come into play and willingness to obliterate an opponent? which I give Vitali the edge if it came down to it......


Wlad and Lewis is 50/50....I think personally Wlad under steward was better...but that doesn't mean he beats Lewis,,,so?.......If Wlad defeats Fury/Joshua/Wilder hes no doubt the best ever nothing to discuss....we will see.....

Wlad already arguably is one of the greatest heavyweights to lace them up

[juggernaut666]

Wlad already arguably is one of the greatest heavyweights to lace them up

Greatest and BEST are two different things...I have Wlad ranked 4 best ever in terms of head to head....

greatest is more subjective....popularity/skill/influence of the sport..succss in own era.etc...etc....

[MisterPullman]

greatest and BEST is two different things...I have Wlad ranked 4 best ever in terms of head to head....greatest is more subjective....popularity/skill/influence of the sport...etc...etc....

That's a fair and solid placement for him. Let's hope he beats Fluffy to a pulp this time around