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How would Hagler do vs GGG/Ward/Kovalev?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
    Nope and Ill tell you why. Kovalev is too smart to get into a war with Hagler. He would box and lean on Hagler with power shots later in the fight. Hagler cant beat a top tier LHW, he is a ***in MW, period. We tend to make the guys from the past more than they were, Hagler was a beast at MW and an ATG. There is a reason he never moved up. He was at the top of his game as a MW. He wouldnt have done well as a LHW against the elites.
    Boone, a middleweight knocked Kovalev down.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
      Of course they mean something. If they dont mean anything none of his wins mean anything either.
      if anything they should define hagler's commitment to the sport to get better in many ways, most guys are destroyed mentally after their first loss, some guys use it as a motivation tool. those early bumps in the road as well as how hard hagler had to work just to get a title shot are extremely overlook by alot of today's fans since alot of fighters are in title fights 20 fights in.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by j0zef View Post
        I think he beats them all. The only one who would give him problems is.. Calzaghe, and I know that's not a popular choice.

        Ward's too cerebral and doesn't move enough. Hagler would not respect his power, and would stalk him to the end. He'll lose the first few rounds, then either wear Ward down or catch him and KO him.

        I don't think Kovalev has the skill to hang with him. He'll eventually go into a shootout and lose badly.

        Golovkin would drop a decision. I don't think he would trust his chin enough, and would try to outbox Hagler.. and he would stand a good chance at outboxing Hagler, except that Hagler's short stature and very long reach would give Golovkin fits. So either Golovkin will be on his backfoot, giving up 5 inches of reach, and drop a decision, or he'll go into an all out-shootout with Hagler, and IMO would lose.

        Calzaghe had such high workrate and had a great, great motor. He's really a pain in the ass to fight because he throws so many punches and moves so much. It can be close and go either way, but I think Joe would throw 500 punches more than Marvin and get the decision.
        Interesting the different views people have on things like this. You could be spot on, unfortunately we can go back in time. These would ***in fun fights to watch.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by youbeight View Post
          if anything they should define hagler's commitment to the sport to get better in many ways, most guys are destroyed mentally after their first loss, some guys use it as a motivation tool. those early bumps in the road as well as how hard hagler had to work just to get a title shot are extremely overlook by alot of today's fans since alot of fighters are in title fights 20 fights in.
          You said it.

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          • #25
            Its coming up on 30 years since Hagler retired, Jesus time flies.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
              Of course they mean something. If they dont mean anything none of his wins mean anything either.
              Does Pacquiao's loss to Singsurat and Torrecampo decades ago mean anything today? It doesn't. TS asked for Prime Hagler, not Hagler early in his career.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Kim Jong Pimp View Post
                Does Pacquiao's loss to Singsurat and Torrecampo decades ago mean anything today? It doesn't. TS asked for Prime Hagler, not Hagler early in his career.
                if anything they meant to stop draining yourself to make weight

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Troy Williams View Post
                  That would be funny to watch..... but Hagler was robbed against Leonard IMO. How does a champion land that many clean body punches and lose the fight?
                  LOL I didn't realize i had been sig'd...........wow

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                  • #29
                    Hagler W UD 12 GGG
                    Hagler L UD Ward
                    Hagler L UD Kovalev
                    Hagler W MD Calzaghe

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Kim Jong Pimp View Post
                      Those losses happened early in Hagler's career and don't mean anything. Hagler at his best was in a different league to GGG.
                      Sure but the jump in talent from Hagler's losses to his prime is probably identical from the jump in GGG's talents to the guys Hagler lost to.

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