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How would Hagler do vs GGG/Ward/Kovalev?

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  • #31
    theres a lot that should be taken into account...hagler did same day weigh ins (coming in at 158 or 157) golovkins same day weigh in is from 171 to 173. so in realty golovkin in those days would be forced to fight light heavyweights like michael spinks (who came in at 172 same day) that would be golovkins true weight.

    but for arguments sake. hagler stops golovkin........hagler has stood up to WAY bigger punchers then golovkin. hearns shattered his damn hand on the mans skull (broke it) so what is golovkins game plan? what is he left with considering power won't come close to working? out boxing him? hagler is way faster then golovkin and is a much better boxer with better foot movement. what else does he have......how is he gonna beat hagler?



    he'd get beaten down in the middle of the ring & that would be that......

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    • #32
      Marvelous would KO the three of them in the same night.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bipolar Hero View Post
        If Prime Hagler was fighting today, how would he do vs:

        1. GGG
        2. Sergey Kovalev
        3. Andre Ward

        4. Prime Joe Calzaghe (bonus round)



        VS






        I think Hagler would beat them all. Hagler has knocked out people weighing 190 on fight nights back in the day and also had an Adamantium chin.
        He would lose to all 3 he had a hard time with an Old Sugar Ray Leonard

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        • #34
          I think he would have fought to a draw with GGG. He would KO Ward and outpoint Calzaghe. He would lose a ud to Kovalev who is just too big and powerful for him. That's my opinion. I respect the opinion of all others. I don't give a rat's ass if others disagree with me as I am sure many will.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by fighter1234 View Post
            GGG knocks overrated Hagler out in the first round.
            That's highly unlikely. Hagler had one of the best chins in boxing history. In something like 65 pro fights against some of the best punchers of that era, Hagler was never knocked down or even staggered.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by fighter1234 View Post
              GGG knocks overrated Hagler out in the first round.
              Originally posted by Luilun View Post
              He would lose to all 3 he had a hard time with an Old Sugar Ray Leonard
              At the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                I think he would have fought to a draw with GGG. He would KO Ward and outpoint Calzaghe. He would lose a ud to Kovalev who is just too big and powerful for him. That's my opinion. I respect the opinion of all others. I don't give a rat's ass if others disagree with me as I am sure many will.
                what does golovkin do to fight to a draw with hagler? what game plan is he going to use.........

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Troy Williams View Post
                  That would be funny to watch..... but Hagler was robbed against Leonard IMO. How does a champion land that many clean body punches and lose the fight?
                  There was no robbery in that fight...close fight with Leonard just winning more rounds than hagler....a robbery is when Holyfield got the draw against Lennox lewis after being dominated in MSG ...... Hagler beats calzaghe comfortably , triple GGG needs a defining moment before we judge it , ward beats him UD and kovalev possibly stops him very late

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                    At the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch.
                    Know your history bolio.....hagler never asked for an immediate rematch...hagler ran to Italy and started acting and his wife divorced him due to marital abuse and alcohol problems....the rematch theory has been built up out of nowhere and it's a figment of fans imagination and I can prove your theory wrong ....hagler never hung about for a rematch and pretty much ran away from the sport.....I'll dig out the proof bolio just to show you who's the man who knows the most lol

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                      At the time they fought Hagler was 32. "Old" Leonard was 30. Hagler was deadly in rematches so Leonard refused to give him a rematch.
                      Leonard landed 306 of 629 punches (49 percent), and Hagler connected on 291 of 792 (37 percent).
                      The split decision in favor of Leonard was very controversial. Judge Jose Guerra's score of 118-110 in favor of Leonard was heavily criticized. "JoJo Guerra should be put in jail," Pat Petronelli, Hagler's co-trainer, said. Harry Gibbs of England was originally scheduled to be a judge, but the Hagler camp objected. They said they believed English judges favor boxers and requested a Mexican judge, so the commission replaced Gibbs with Guerra. Watching the fight at home two weeks later, Gibbs scored the fight for Hagler.
                      After the decision was announced, Leonard told the crowd that he would see them "six months and fifteen pounds later," implying that he would next fight WBC Light Heavyweight Champion Thomas Hearns. Leonard later said he "was only joking."
                      Bob Arum and rival promoter Don King, who was just a spectator at the bout, got into a shoving match when Arum prevented King from entering the ring after the fight. They were separated by security. "That man had nothing to do with this fight," Arum said. "There was no way he belonged in the ring."
                      On May 27, 1987, Leonard announced that he was going back into retirement, but he left open the possibility of another comeback. "You guys know me," he said. Leonard would return to the ring the following year to fight Donny Lalonde for two titles. "I told you guys some time ago I was going to try to retire," he said to the press. "I tried. It didn't work."
                      On July 2, 1987, sports anchor John Dennis of WNEV-TV in Boston reported that Hagler was involved in "widespread abuse of both alcohol and *******." Dennis went on to say: "Those closest to Marvin Hagler say it was that decision on April 6 that started him on the downward spiral. Almost immediately after his return home to Boston, they say Marvin's despair over the loss steered him toward alcohol and *******." The following day, during an interview with Dennis, Hagler denied the allegations. "I want to reassure the public I have no problem with drugs or alcohol," Hagler said. He suggested that jealousy within his family was responsible for the report.
                      Hagler announced his retirement after watching his half-brother, Robbie Sims, lose to WBA Middleweight Champion Sumbu Kalambay by a 12-round unanimous decision on June 13, 1988. Unlike Leonard, Hagler stayed retired. He moved to Italy and acted in several action movies.
                      There was talk of a rematch, but it never happened. Seth Abraham, who was president of HBO Sports, said, "Marvin made it very clear — he thought he was jobbed and he was never going to fight again. And he never did. There were conversations, but they were never at the level of negotiations. If people say Marvin wanted the fight and Ray didn’t, that’s revisionist history."
                      Hagler vs. Leonard was named Fight of the Year and Upset of the Year by The Ring. The fight was later named Upset of the Decade.....

                      Hopefully you can finally accept the truth ...also hagler retired on June 13th and Leonard vs hagler was April 6th....he sure did wait around for Leonard to rematch him ? 9 weeks init lol
                      Hagler was knocked down by juan roldan....a punch landed as hagler went down and that is classed as a knockdown

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