Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Potential HBO PPV Departure, Mayweather II Influence

[ADP02]

How is this comparable?

1. Some had Floyd losing, but some had Floyd winning. Check the press row scores.

2. Floyd gave an immediate rematch.

3. Floyd's injury was mentioned AFTER THE 1ST ROUND. Yes, DURING THE FIGHT.

4. It clearly wasn't a full thickness rotator cuff tear, as Pacquiao claimed to have.

1. Floyd heard the fans booing and was ready with his excuse even before Merchant was going to ask him the questions .....

Floyd blamed his poor performance on his injured shoulder.

2. That's the point. Manny wants a rematch to prove that without the shoulder injury, Manny beats Floyd decisively.

3. Manny's doctor confirmed the injury happened about a month before and NSAC confirms that Manny's team discussed with them an injury that had occurred. Manny's S/C coach and Roach confirmed that after round 4, Manny stated that his shoulder was gone!

4. Clear? I'm still waiting for your evidence.
- Just like you said that Manny was waving a flag in that picture and called it a fact/evidence?
- Just like you said there was no rehab even though I showed you plenty of articles saying he did SELF REHAB?
- "I didn't want to let anyone know because I may never get this opportunity again" - Floyd
- Even though Manny came back ~1 year later while Floyd was ready to discuss and schedule his next fight about 1-1.5 months after his fight for an August 10 rematch.

above statement was for Floyd versus Manny below
"Pacquiao no longer had a sling to support his shoulder but stressed that his movement was still limited. The only sport he is able to do now is chess"




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[travestyny]

1. Floyd heard the fans booing and was ready with his excuse even before Merchant was going to ask him the questions .....

Floyd blamed his poor performance on his injured shoulder.

2. That's the point. Manny wants a rematch to prove that without the shoulder injury, Manny beats Floyd.

3. Manny's doctor confirmed the injury happened about a month before and NSAC confirms that Manny's team discussed with them an injury that had occurred. Manny's S/C coach and Roach confirmed that after round 4, Manny stated that his shoulder was gone!

4. Clear? I'm still waiting for your evidence.
- Just like you said that Manny was waving a flag in that picture and called it a fact/evidence?
- Just like you said there was no rehab even though I showed you plenty of articles saying he did SELF REHAB?
- "I didn't want to let anyone know because I may never get this opportunity again" - Floyd
- Even though Manny came back ~1 year later while Floyd was ready to discuss and schedule his next fight about 1-1.5 months after his fight for an August 10 rematch.

above statement was for Floyd versus Manny below
"Pacquiao no longer had a sling to support his shoulder but stressed that his movement was still limited. The only sport he is able to do now is chess"

Let's see...

One claimed that he didn't have an injury going into the fight.

Pacquiao said, “No, I don’t have pain or injury before the fight. I just want to make sure that whatever happened, I’m still there. I’m not saying I’m not 100 percent condition.”

http://www.newsday.com/sports/boxing/why-manny-pacquiao-still-believes-he-beat-floyd-mayweather-in-2015-fight-1.11350596

One mentioned the injury after round #1. (Here is the corner work after round 1).


And for the last time, self rehab of swimming, basketball, badminton, and chess (as you stated it to be) doesn't fit the bill for rehabilitation for full-thickness rotator cuff surgery. But you already know this.


Furthermore, you miss the point of #2. Floyd won despite his injury. Pacquiao just never appeared to have one and then complained....at the press conference!

[Build That Wall]

There will never be a rematch. Spoon must have hacked BPP's account

[Motorcity Cobra]

Crawford ducked Postol earlier. It was offered to him and he turned it down and picked Dierry Jean. Postol ended up fighting Matthysse.

You don't have to believe me. It showed in the Postol fight. Crawford ran all night.

HBO also wanted Crawford vs Matthysse. Bob refused to do it.

Do you understand how silly that sounds? Postol was seen as more dangerous after the Matthysse fight than before the fight. Postol and Crawford both fought in October. And Postol had been the mandatory for that WBC belt since Garcia was the champ. I gave you proof of what I was saying. Show me proof of Crawford refusing to fight Postol and picking Jean.

[Bronx2245]

Floyd was blaming his poor performance against Castillo due to guess what? Yup, torn rotator cuff injury! Check out below how fast he was ready for a rematch ..... reading at what Floyd fans said about Manny's injury, one would think they do not believe Floyd was seriously injured ....



Floyd, who fought on April 20 against Castillo was ready for a rematch against Castillo about 1-1.5 months (talks) after the fight for an early August fight even though Floyd was supposedly recovering from a torn rotator cuff injury and surgery




"I tore my rotator cuff. My arm was killing me. It was hurting so bad, it was one of the most painful feelings that I ever had."

Floyd: "It was tough, my last (days of) training I hurt my rotator cuff. I wasn't able to use my jab and left wasn't as strong but I don't want to have any excuses like other champions. When they get hurt, they don't even come to show up to the fight. I get hurt, I come to fight to give the fans ....."

Larry Merchant: Was he much tougher than you anticipated? You after all said this was going to be an easy fight.

Floyd: You have to realize that I have a messed up arm. My arm was messed up but I have no excuses. I don't back down or turn down fights.

Larry Merchant: So it was a harder fight than anticipated?

Floyd: With one arm, yes. With one arm yes.




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May 6, 2015:

Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with ******.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years.

BEST SKILLS

Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.

BEST JAB

Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.

BEST DEFENSE

Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd clean… so he had the best defense also.

BEST CHIN

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.

BEST PUNCHER

Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.

FASTEST HANDS

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.

FASTEST FEET

Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.

SMARTEST

Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.

STRONGEST

Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.

BEST OVERALL

Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned.

http://******.craveonline.com/news/3...-luis-castillo

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Do you understand how silly that sounds? Postol was seen as more dangerous after the Matthysse fight than before the fight. Postol and Crawford both fought in October. And Postol had been the mandatory for that WBC belt since Garcia was the champ. I gave you proof of what I was saying. Show me proof of Crawford refusing to fight Postol and picking Jean.

Look at this idiot. He's a Haymon fanboy and he ends up defending Arum. Why, because of Crawford. Blood is thicker than water, indeed.

**** the Haymon/PBC/SHO/TBE vs Arum/HBO/Pac war.

Arum was talking about cherry picking fights for his fighters and it didn't even register to this poster.

[ADP02]

Let's see...

One claimed that he didn't have an injury going into the fight.

Pacquiao said, “No, I don’t have pain or injury before the fight. I just want to make sure that whatever happened, I’m still there. I’m not saying I’m not 100 percent condition.”

One mentioned the injury after round #1.


And for the last time, self rehab of swimming, basketball, badminton, and chess (as you stated it to be) doesn't fit the bill for rehabilitation for full-thickness rotator cuff surgery. But you already know this.

Manny's doctor confirmed a tear happened before the fight and then became a FULL THICKNESS TEAR during the fight. So no matter how Manny felt just before the start of the fight, the tear was there and got a lot worse during the fight. I guess you never played a sport with a reoccurring injury before. I and many other people have and can explain that to you.

BUT more than likely, Manny was just trying to cover up for those lawsuits that were coming his way and possible perjury because if you read other statements, Manny and his team says that he was not 100%.


Manny had listed all the meds that was required due to his injured shoulder. Same meds that he wanted for the fight.

Going by your logic, Floyd didn't say anything to the NSAC nor did he state it on the form plus his vitals were all good and it was just prior to getting the IV so then there was no serious medical condition. Right? Its all a lie! and lets see his pre-fight form prior to the Castillo fight. I doubt he told the NSAC that he had something serious.


"We will gather all the facts and follow the circumstances. At some point we will have some discussion. As a licensee of the commission you want to make sure that fighters are giving you up-to-date information." - NSAC discussing Manny

but NSAC didn't go there when they found out that Floyd didn't give them up-to-date information. Vegas, Nevada couldn't do that to the home town guy named Floyd.

[jqSide]

I gave you proof of what I was saying. Show me proof of Crawford refusing to fight Postol and picking Jean.

You want proof Crawford ducked Postol? Take it from Postol:

[Manic Shot]

In reality Manny will fight in Showtime PPV then next year you'll see the rematch between Manny and Floyd jr in SHOWTIME PPV.(sorry HBO!)

[nycsmooth]

Floyd stays retired why and waste the $$$on Pac vs some 1 like Vargas is beyond me when all out there are legitimate guys that deserve a shot to beat him and will beat him Thurman, Brook, Crawford, &even Garcia..