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**travestyny** · 08-13-2016, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by daggum View Post

decisive? embarrassing? how did floyd win decisively win and embarass him when manny was the one landing the much cleaner punches? that never made any sense to me. you have to ko floyd in order to win? what else does someone need to do? he had the much cleaner punches, he had the much better defense and he was the ring general and forced floyd to clinch and bend over consantly which floyd wouldn't have done if he was in control of the fight. it was a bad decision in boxing terms so why are you pretending it was some sort of schooling? just cause you like floyd you have to lie to yourself?

you are being so hyperbolic saying it was embarrassing and easy. floyd nicked a win because of reputation and because people thought it was his type of fight but thats not how you score boxing. you score on punches, etc...and he didn't win those categories. he only won the i'm floyd category. the only one who embarrassed himself was floyd while bending over below the waist and having his face 6 inches from the canvas. he did that over 35 times and its not even legal. you probably think that illegal things coutn as defense lol. and he still got hit cleaner while doing all these illegal moves but yea he embarassed pac. does illegal moves constantly and gets hit cleaner=you got schooled! you know your boxing sir.

Can you name 5 people that know shlt about boxing that believe Pacquiao won this fight?

I mean 5 active boxers, retired boxers, boxing trainers, or boxing commentators. Serious question.

**ADP02** · 08-13-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post

If Team Pacquiao had never blamed their loss on Pacquiao's shoulder injury, and just said that "the better man won," I think we would've already had a rematch! When you pair the "injury excuse" with the "fake contracts," I highly doubt Floyd wants to do business with Arum anytime soon! There's only one fight that Floyd should consider a comeback for, and that's a rematch with Canelo Alvarez @ 154! That's probably more money than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao II.

Floyd was blaming his poor performance against Castillo due to guess what? Yup, torn rotator cuff injury! Check out below how fast he was ready for a rematch ..... reading at what Floyd fans said about Manny's injury, one would think they do not believe Floyd was seriously injured ....

Floyd, who fought on April 20 against Castillo was ready for a rematch against Castillo about 1-1.5 months (talks) after the fight for an early August fight even though Floyd was supposedly recovering from a torn rotator cuff injury and surgery

"I tore my rotator cuff. My arm was killing me. It was hurting so bad, it was one of the most painful feelings that I ever had."

Floyd: "It was tough, my last (days of) training I hurt my rotator cuff. I wasn't able to use my jab and left wasn't as strong but I don't want to have any excuses like other champions. When they get hurt, they don't even come to show up to the fight. I get hurt, I come to fight to give the fans ....."

Larry Merchant: Was he much tougher than you anticipated? You after all said this was going to be an easy fight.

Floyd: You have to realize that I have a messed up arm. My arm was messed up but I have no excuses. I don't back down or turn down fights.

Larry Merchant: So it was a harder fight than anticipated?

Floyd: With one arm, yes. With one arm yes.

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**jqSide** · 08-13-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post

He said if it's up to him it's **** Pacquiao but if that's who Crawford wants to fight then that's who he'll fight. He was upset because they were told they had the Pacquiao fight the first time and they went back on their word and chose Bradley instead. Remember earlier in the year Crawford was dismissing Postol and everybody was trying to claim he was afraid of Postol? That was because he was told he had the Pacquaio fight.

Crawford ducked Postol earlier. It was offered to him and he turned it down and picked Dierry Jean. Postol ended up fighting Matthysse.

You don't have to believe me. It showed in the Postol fight. Crawford ran all night.

HBO also wanted Crawford vs Matthysse. Bob refused to do it.

**ADP02** · 08-13-2016, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by revelated View Post

No, he should say "Crawford looked pretty good against Postol, we'd like to challenge him", or "Keith Thurman's been asking for a fight, he looked pretty amazing against Shawn Porter, we'd like to try for that fight" or someone else who met the following criteria:

Is an ACTIVE fighter
Coming off a big, significant win
Who would actually be a threat
And who would bring in lots of money

Floyd only meets two of the 4 criteria above.

Also, Floyd hasn't rematched anyone since Maidana, and that was only because of the SD outcome of the first fight. It wasn't a decisive, unanimous decision like Canelo or Manny.

Bottom line is, Manny and Roach need to move on to the current crop of fighters who are an actual threat. Not focus on the guy that literally embarrassed you in the ring.

Especially not after this:

Roach keeps on saying that he did not see it since the fight happened and he needs to rewatch it .....

now since you are using Roach as a barometer:
- Roach said many people told him that Manny won.
- Roach said with 2 good shoulders Manny beats Floyd.

**Cinci Champ** · 08-13-2016, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post

I actually want to see May-Pac II. The first fight was overdue anyway as a rematch would be, I don't see a great difference. There's that slight doubt still that Pac could in fact have done better under optimal circumstances. The draw, as I see it, would be Mayweather's 0 and yet another comeback. And greats are supposed to have rematches like these, so why not.

except may will be 41-42 hes great but come on thats old as ****

**travestyny** · 08-13-2016, 12:29 PM