Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Potential HBO PPV Departure, Mayweather II Influence

[MrRolltide91]

Arum picked that date for a reason

[ADP02]

May 6, 2015:

Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with ******.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years.

BEST SKILLS

Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.

BEST JAB

Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.

BEST DEFENSE

Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd clean… so he had the best defense also.

BEST CHIN

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.

BEST PUNCHER

Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.

FASTEST HANDS

Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.

FASTEST FEET

Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.

SMARTEST

Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.

STRONGEST

Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.

BEST OVERALL

Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned.

http://******.craveonline.com/news/3...-luis-castillo

DEFLECTION CITY!!!

Since you like Castillo statements:
Asked for his reaction to Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s claim that he injured his right shoulder prior to their April 20 fight at the MGM and that the ailment worsened in the third round, Castillo didn't mince words.

"Mayweather always has an excuse," he said, a full grin overtaking his face. "Anytime he's in a tough fight it's because he hurt his hand, his finger, his elbow.

"It's the same thing all the time." - Castillo

[Motorcity Cobra]

Look at this idiot. He's a Haymon fanboy and he ends up defending Arum. Why, because of Crawford. Blood is thicker than water, indeed.

**** the Haymon/PBC/SHO/TBE vs Arum/HBO/Pac war.

Arum was talking about cherry picking fights for his fighters and it didn't even register to this poster.

No where in that interview did he say anything about cherry picking fighters. He said Peter Nelson isn't a good matchmaker and he's correct. He isn't going to let Nelson play matchmaker because Top Rank is the best in the business when it comes to matchmaking. That's a truth accepted by everyone in boxing. He's saying styles make fights and the guys Nelson picks make for boring fights. And he's correct.

[travestyny]

Manny's doctor confirmed a tear happened before the fight and then became a FULL THICKNESS TEAR during the fight. So no matter how Manny felt just before the start of the fight, the tear was there and got a lot worse during the fight. I guess you never played a sport with a reoccurring injury before. I and many other people have and can explain that to you.

BUT more than likely, Manny was just trying to cover up for those lawsuits that were coming his way and possible perjury because if you read other statements, Manny and his team says that he was not 100%.


Manny had listed all the meds that was required due to his injured shoulder. Same meds that he wanted for the fight.

Don't go making excuses as to why you think he was lying. His team is full of them, WHICH IS THE ****ING POINT. His team also said they sent in paperwork to NSAC about the injury, and that was proven to be a lie. The bottom line is that he went into the fight claiming to be fine, right? This is according to HIS MEDICAL CHECK-FORM, HIS STATEMENTS, according to ROACH SAYING THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSES, and according to NSAC WHO CHECKED HIM OUT. He lost.




Mayweather also had surgery on his rotator cuff, after Berto I believe. He also stated that both his shoulders and both his hands were messed up for the Pacquiao fight. Do you see the difference between these two fighters? One is salty that he lost and making up excuses. It's plain to see.

Going by your logic, Floyd didn't say anything to the NSAC nor did he state it on the form plus his vitals were all good and it was just prior to getting the IV so then there was no serious medical condition. Right? Its all a lie! and lets see his pre-fight form prior to the Castillo fight. I doubt he told the NSAC that he had something serious.


"We will gather all the facts and follow the circumstances. At some point we will have some discussion. As a licensee of the commission you want to make sure that fighters are giving you up-to-date information." - NSAC discussing Manny

but NSAC didn't go there when they found out that Floyd didn't give them up-to-date information. Vegas, Nevada couldn't do that to the home town guy named Floyd.

Stay on topic, dude. You are now talking about the IV and the Castillo fight combined?

1. NSAC didn't have an issue with Mayweather for Castillo likely because Mayweather didn't try to throw NSAC under the bus like the cowardly Pac team. They blatantly lied and said they sent NSAC paperwork. Floyd fought, he won, and that was the end of it. Pacquiao fought, lost, made up an excuse, and then said it was all NSAC's fault.

2. The IV had nothing to do with NSAC. If you can name me one fighter that NSAC has revealed to be dehydrated at the weigh-in, or any fighter that discloses dehydration on their pre-fight medical check-up, then you might get somewhere. Good luck. Go looking.

[Motorcity Cobra]

You want proof Crawford ducked Postol? Take it from Postol:

Are you serious? Postol is claiming Crawford ducked him at the press conference for their fight. Revisionist history but some of us never forget. You are flat out lying and have no proof of what you're claiming.

Feb 25, 2016

“I’d like to fight him[Postol]. That’s a great matchup,” Crawford said to ESPN.com. “I asked for the fight. I don’t know what happened. He’s tall, he’s rangy, he likes to box. He’d be a good opponent in the future, but I’m ready for whatever my managers and promoter put in front of me.”

http://goo.gl/eKZDUc

Top Rank VP saying Postol wanted 2 fights before fighting Crawford.

@BoxingVoice_Vic @jrosales13 ....Postol wants 2 defenses, then Bud, so...��

— Carl Moretti (@CarlMoretti) November 29, 2015

[Boxing Logic]

If Floyd keeps ducking GGG, and won't fight Spence, then Pacquiao is definitely the fight I'd like to see. Pacquiao was doing great right before he got injured, staggering Floyd with the left, and he still won the fight anyway. People just got swayed by biased commentary and the fact both fighters were so fast, you couldn't even see what shots were landing on the ropes, where Pacquiao did most his damage, until you rewatched every exchange multiple times or slowed it down.

So a rematch is definitely due. It will never make up for Floyd ducking the fight during his prime but maybe we'll get a closer approximation to what we should have gotten in 2009 in the rematch.

Arum picked that date for a reason

What reason? You mean because of its historical significance or you just mean boxing wise?

[travestyny]

Pacquiao was doing great right before he got injured.

Sure, if doing great means you lost all 3 rounds on all three judges' scorecards.

So a rematch is definitely due. It will never make up for Floyd ducking the fight during his prime but maybe we'll get a closer approximation to what we should have gotten in 2009 in the rematch.

I think Roach already cleared up who was at fault for the fight not happening when both were in their prime.

This post was pathetic.

[Left Hook Tua]

Pacquiao Vargas still 10 times as good as Mayweather Berto.

Crawford blew his chance by running a marathon instead of putting up a fight and actually throw punches.

Say what?

Crawford ran vs. Postol?

Boxing is not for you.

[Combat Talk Radio]

decisive? embarrassing? how did floyd win decisively win and embarass him when manny was the one landing the much cleaner punches? that never made any sense to me. you have to ko floyd in order to win? what else does someone need to do?

Beating Floyd involves one of three things.

1. Outland Floyd (Manny failed here, as have all others.)
2. Control the pace of the fight (Manny failed here, he was eating jabs all night long.)
3. Go for a knockout so it doesn't go to the judges (Manny failed here because he was afraid of getting put to sleep again)

Manny LOST! Move on, dude.

Floyd was blaming his poor performance against Castillo due to guess what? Yup, torn rotator cuff injury! Check out below how fast he was ready for a rematch ..... reading at what Floyd fans said about Manny's injury, one would think they do not believe Floyd was seriously injured ....

Difference: Floyd won the first fight despite the arm, so a rematch was actually in respect of Castillo. He wanted there to be no doubt he was better, and Castillo ended up getting schooled worse the second time around.

Manny might deserve a rematch if it were a mixed or split decision. He would definitely deserve a rematch if there was true controversy - an early stoppage, a CJ Ross score, headbutts resulting in cuts, etc. There wasn't.

You saw TBE stay at a distance in 10 rounds and jab the hell out of Manny, who was afraid to engage except rounds 4 and 6. That's all you saw.

People just don't like that Floyd beat their hero with a jab. Deal with it. Manny deserves no rematch because he didn't even try.

I was a huge fan of his after I saw him pummel De La Hoya, but ever since getting put to sleep by Marquez, the dude has been a joke who deserves nothing. That knockout did something to him.

[MrRolltide91]

What reason? You mean because of its historical significance or you just mean boxing wise?

That it's possible that hbo would pass on that vargas fight for Ward vs Kovalev and making manny a free agent.