Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Potential HBO PPV Departure, Mayweather II Influence

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  • Sup
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    #11
    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
    I actually want to see May-Pac II. The first fight was overdue anyway as a rematch would be, I don't see a great difference. There's that slight doubt still that Pac could in fact have done better under optimal circumstances. The draw, as I see it, would be Mayweather's 0 and yet another comeback. And greats are supposed to have rematches like these, so why not.
    I don't think it'd be worth it at this point. Knowing that Floyd "won" the first fight, Team Pacquiao would have to cave in to every demand that Team Floyd/Haymon have in store. Pac would lose the fight at the negotiation table before even stepping in a ring.

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    • Weltschmerz
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sup
      I don't think it'd be worth it at this point. Knowing that Floyd "won" the first fight, Team Pacquiao would have to cave in to every demand that Team Floyd/Haymon have in store. Pac would lose the fight at the negotiation table before even stepping in a ring.
      I don't think the fight happens either. Just saying I wouldn't mind seeing the two of them back in a ring together.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #13
        ... not interested in Floyd-Pac II -- those ships had sailed already...

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        • Cinci Champ
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          #14
          very interesting in my opinion hbo doesnt get enough attention and is biggest culprit when it comes to big fights not happening and the politics that help hurt this sport

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            #15
            Originally posted by Jubei
            Pacquiao Vargas still 10 times as good as Mayweather Berto.

            Crawford blew his chance by running a marathon instead of putting up a fight and actually throw punches.
            it is? i actually think berto pretty easily defeats vargas

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            • MisanthropicNY
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              #16
              If the fight is on CBS or ESPN, I'll watch. PPV? No. Joke for a PPV fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                I actually want to see May-Pac II. The first fight was overdue anyway as a rematch would be, I don't see a great difference. There's that slight doubt still that Pac could in fact have done better under optimal circumstances. The draw, as I see it, would be Mayweather's 0 and yet another comeback. And greats are supposed to have rematches like these, so why not.
                There's simply no point to a rematch. None.

                Statistically, the only other fighter to beat Manny unanimous besides TBE was Erik Morales - and that took getting cut and bloodied from a headbutt. That's telling, to me. It means you were looking at two of the best in the ring on 5/2/2015 - where the winner proved why he belonged #1.

                We can speculate about shoulders and crooked judges and Las Vegas and Kenny Bayless and drug testing and IVs and all that all day long, but the fact of the matter is, Manny didn't show up and he knows it.

                He shouldn't be broke, period. Chino's not broke and he retired with a fraction of what Manny did.

                If Floyd's as smart as I think he is, he will fight someone like Broner, or Crawford. Someone where there's actually an uncertainty as to the outcome (yes, even with Broner). Someone with buzz in the media who can sell a fight.

                Not go back to Manny and UD him again with 1.4 clinches per round, nobody wants to see that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  There's simply no point to a rematch. None.

                  Statistically, the only other fighter to beat Manny unanimous besides TBE was Erik Morales - and that took getting cut and bloodied from a headbutt. That's telling, to me. It means you were looking at two of the best in the ring on 5/2/2015 - where the winner proved why he belonged #1.

                  We can speculate about shoulders and crooked judges and Las Vegas and Kenny Bayless and drug testing and IVs and all that all day long, but the fact of the matter is, Manny didn't show up and he knows it.

                  He shouldn't be broke, period. Chino's not broke and he retired with a fraction of what Manny did.

                  If Floyd's as smart as I think he is, he will fight someone like Broner, or Crawford. Someone where there's actually an uncertainty as to the outcome (yes, even with Broner). Someone with buzz in the media who can sell a fight.

                  Not go back to Manny and UD him again with 1.4 clinches per round, nobody wants to see that.
                  You sure nobody wants to see it, though? If it sells it sells.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sup
                    I don't think it'd be worth it at this point. Knowing that Floyd "won" the first fight, Team Pacquiao would have to cave in to every demand that Team Floyd/Haymon have in store. Pac would lose the fight at the negotiation table before even stepping in a ring.
                    agreed with this.. team mayweather knowing that they won the first fight will prolly milk pac at the negotiation table to the point where manny would prolly have to decline the match. pac will not be able to make any demands or request unless manny did something spectacular like (knock out crawford if he fights him in 2017) leading up to a rematch with floyd which is unlikely to happen.

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                    • WesternChamp
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      There's simply no point to a rematch. None.

                      Statistically, the only other fighter to beat Manny unanimous besides TBE was Erik Morales - and that took getting cut and bloodied from a headbutt. That's telling, to me. It means you were looking at two of the best in the ring on 5/2/2015 - where the winner proved why he belonged #1.

                      We can speculate about shoulders and crooked judges and Las Vegas and Kenny Bayless and drug testing and IVs and all that all day long, but the fact of the matter is, Manny didn't show up and he knows it.

                      He shouldn't be broke, period. Chino's not broke and he retired with a fraction of what Manny did.

                      If Floyd's as smart as I think he is, he will fight someone like Broner, or Crawford. Someone where there's actually an uncertainty as to the outcome (yes, even with Broner). Someone with buzz in the media who can sell a fight.

                      Not go back to Manny and UD him again with 1.4 clinches per round, nobody wants to see that.
                      thats exactly why a rematch is warrant. now had pac "showed up" and lost the fight, then you can kiss the rematch goodbye. the fact that you even admit that he didnt "show up" is what makes the rematch more interesting. on top of that, the first fight didnt end too well with pac's suppose shoulder injury and floyd's IV use. these two things will always be brought up when talking about the fight (like it or not).

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