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  • #51
    Originally posted by just the facts View Post
    Rather than post a bunch of dumb shyte that isn't true, why not just post that you don't like Ward and are in love with g string? It would save time and you wouldn't look so much like an idiot
    What is not true?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by larryusa View Post
      Only people who slam Ward's resume somehow praise GGG's resume....
      Both are average. Ward's is better. The difference is that GGG tried to fight every middleweight out there and was turned down. Ward was the guy who more often than not did the ducking.

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      • #53
        Lol, read the first page and somehow this got turned into something about GGG. The same guys who brought him up are the ones who cry about the "fanboys" of GGG yet can't keep,him out of their minds and posts...

        It's comical

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        • #54
          Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert View Post
          Andre Ward is not just an olympic gold medalist and a fighter who haven't lost since he was 12, but he's also a proven world champion and got one of the best resumes in modern boxing.

          1: Carl Froch
          Froch is a guy with everything from good size, respectable power, a legendary chin and great stamina. Froch's victories includes guys like Kessler, Bute, Pascal, Abraham, Groves, Taylor, etc. In other words, Froch is a proven elite warrior. Froch has always had a stylistical problem with fast-handed opponents, which could be seen in his fights against Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Groves and Ward. The stylistical advantage shouldn't take anything away from this win, though. This was a great win and only an idiot would think otherwise.

          2: Mikkel Kessler
          Kessler only ever lost to 3 elite fighters: Ward, Calzaghe and Froch, who he went 1-1 against. Besides that, Kessler has proven to be a dangerous mix of good size, extreme power and good skills, even better basic skills than the ones of Froch, but just with less ability to adept. He has defeated some good opponents, with Froch being his best win, and no one can deny that this was a true quality win for Ward.

          3: I could go on and on with quality names like Abraham, Bika, Rodriquez, Barrera, etc., but the point is, Ward's resume is full of good wins.
          Wards resume is overated

          Bika-c level journeyman

          Green-c minus level journeyman

          Abraham-c level at 168 /best weight was 160

          Kessler-b minus level /headbutts galore

          Froch-b level /solid win

          Dawson-c level at 168 /severely drained

          Rodriguez -c minus level/domestic fighter

          Smith-d level/domestic fighter

          Barrera-c minus level/domestic fighter

          Brand -d level /old domestic fighter


          Ward won an overated tournament that was almost all at home in oakland. He gets away with over clinching and headbutts.

          His resume is overated .

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
            Pacquiao de la Hoya has *nothing* to do with the topic of discussion @ hand. Beating a Drained Dawson - who was coming off of a win over Hopkins - is better than beating a *50* year ole' Hopkins. Period, end of...
            No, it's the same principle, how much credit should a guy get for beating a guy dead at the weight. Of course PACs Oscar win was far more impressive, given that he went up weight classes and was the underdog.

            50yr old Hopkins was still top 3 at 175. At 168 Dawson gets knocked out by anyone top 10, so that's not a better scalp

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Jubei View Post
              Not impressive, his best win is Froch. Is Froch great? Well, when GGG challenged him he rather retired.

              Ward can only win in his backyard, he is afraid to travel.

              If Ward was for real he would have taken the Froch rematch.

              GGG took that very same fight in a heartbeat and made Froch retire.

              Also these people here pretending as Ward was anything special, yet nobody watches his fights. Something is wrong lol.
              Only win in his back yard? His biggest win (Froch) wasn't in his back yard.

              Taken the Foch rematch? Ward agreed to Wembley but not Nottingham. Did you see anything in the first fight that leads you to believe that Froch could ever beat Ward no matter the venue?

              g string took the very same fight? the fight was never really on the table, so you can't really say that.

              Made Froch retire? I know this fits your agenda, but Froch was already retired when a Froch/g string fight was being discussed. Why didn't team g string offer Ward a fight at 168?
              Last edited by just the facts; 08-12-2016, 04:25 PM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Post
                he asked to go down, signed the contract, got in the ring and LOST...
                You sound foolish bruh.


                There are weigh divisions for a reason.
                He may have signed , but that doesnt mean he wasnt drained. He was b level fighter at 175. He was a c level fighter at 168 with no energy.

                Tyere is no way anyone can twist it. ,that win over dawson was garbage. Its just as good as his win over smith.

                Dudes resume is overated

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  So how impressed were you with PACs domination of Oscar? Oscar just lost by Sd to Floyd, then got shut out and quit on his stool vs PAC. Sounds like the best win of the decade, since to you being dead at the weight doesn't matter
                  Oscar was a part time fighter. He fought floyd at 154 and hadnt fought at 147 in half a decade if not more.

                  He made 150 vs forbes and got his cheek bone broke is a shhty performance. I was there. He wanted a floyd rematch,floyd said come to 147 , so oscar fought forbes and trained for floyd only for floyd to pretend to retire. He then fought pac and got beat up. Oscar was drained and looked half dead.

                  Roy went up to heavy to fight ruiz by packing muscle. He then ******ly went back down to 175 for tarver and looked dead at the weigjt and pulled off the victory. But the damage was done. You mess up your kidneys doing that.

                  Science says being drained is dangerous and you arent you 100 percent self

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                    Only win in his back yard? His biggest win (Froch) wasn't in his back yard.

                    Taken the Foch rematch? Ward agreed to Wembley but not Nottingham. Did you see anything in the first fight that leads you to believe that Froch could ever beat Ward no matter the venue?

                    g string took the very same fight? the fight was never really on the table, so you can't really say that.

                    Made Froch retire? I know this fits your agenda, but Froch was already retired when a Froch/g string fight was being discussed. Why didn't team g string offer Ward a fight at 168?
                    Froch wasn't retired, he was coming off his Wembley show, Ring rated p4p, #1 active Smw. This was summer 2014, he retired in 2015

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
                      You sound foolish bruh.


                      There are weigh divisions for a reason.
                      He may have signed , but that doesnt mean he wasnt drained. He was b level fighter at 175. He was a c level fighter at 168 with no energy.

                      Tyere is no way anyone can twist it. ,that win over dawson was garbage. Its just as good as his win over smith.

                      Dudes resume is overated
                      Dawson easily beats BHop at 175 and that makes him a b level fighter but Kovalev easily beats BHop at 175 after Dawson did and that makes him a AA level fighter? Can't have it both ways.

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