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  • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    Brook is simply not a draw.

    I have never heard ANYONE refer to Kell Brook as a lucrative opponent.

    e.g.
    Brook is not even remotely close to Khan's level..... and Khan is not even remotely close to Canelo's level..... Brook has never fought on PPV, and has only ever fought Shawn Porter..... and that fight was 2 years ago.

    Also, it is a ****-fight..... Kell Brook has NO CHANCE of winning.

    I do not believe that Kell Brook would generate more than Saunders..... he is a much more marketable opponent for Golovkin.

    And I also do not believe that Jacobs/Quillin could generate more than GGG/Jacobs.....

    ..... you will never convince me that 1.5mil and "Quillin money" are the best offers that Team Bull**** could come up with.
    Beliefs, beliefs and convictions. Based on your opinions, not reality.

    Many on NSB believe Khan has been ducking Brook because that fight, prior to Khan even knowing about the Canelo fight, would have given both a multi-million payday - but Khan said Brook was not on his level? Based on what? He saw a big threat and as most agreed at the time, it was ok to lose to Canelo but not Brook.

    Brook have many who think he is close to elite but has never had a chance to prove it - especially in the UK. Khan looked the same but has been found out. Put Brook in with this 'mega-monster- Golvkin who is also said to be elite and has yet to prove it and you have a hugely marketable fight in the Uk [not in the UK]. Saunders has few fans among casuals in the UK plus no matter how you market it - who is going to be paying the money. Warren and Box Nation don't have multi-millions and nor does K2 and as Saunders is an unknown entity in the US then HBO won't pay for it. So yes, Sky will pay for Eubank or Brook to fight GGG and Hearn can put it together. Saunders is with the wrong promoter.

    Jacobs is unknown in the UK. Not a huge name in the USA. Quillen/Jacobs was promoted as a battle to see who is king of New York. That worked a bit. At its best GGG/Jacobs might attract same kind of interest as Lemieux/Golovkin. Much better fight mind you but the interest is not there for $4M paydays.
    You should pay more attention to the finances over in the UK - that is what is creating a 4M payday for Brook - nothing else.

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    • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
      It's the most K2 can offer them for a fight in the US - they're a business, not a charity

      Of course, Uncle AL could always pitch in to help with Jacobs and/or Warren could stage the Saunders fight in the UK

      After all, if they are such "lucrative" fights (ha ha), they should be jumping at the chance TO PAY THEIR FIGHTERS ridiculous amounts of money.

      Fact is that Haymon is happy to see Jacobs fight for a third of the money against Mora whilst Warren is sitting idly by whilst Saunders potentially commits professional hari kari by ****ting on GBP and Fat Dan

      They dont want it - END OF STORY

      Bull**** !

      You just stated that Golovkin can't draw more than Quillin.

      If lil'G can't draw flies, why should Jacobs/Saunders care about him..... let alone Canelo.

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      • Originally posted by SteveM View Post
        Beliefs, beliefs and convictions. Based on your opinions, not reality.

        Many on NSB believe Khan has been ducking Brook because that fight, prior to Khan even knowing about the Canelo fight, would have given both a multi-million payday - but Khan said Brook was not on his level? Based on what? He saw a big threat and as most agreed at the time, it was ok to lose to Canelo but not Brook.

        Brook have many who think he is close to elite but has never had a chance to prove it - especially in the UK. Khan looked the same but has been found out. Put Brook in with this 'mega-monster- Golvkin who is also said to be elite and has yet to prove it and you have a hugely marketable fight in the Uk [not in the UK]. Saunders has few fans among casuals in the UK plus no matter how you market it - who is going to be paying the money. Warren and Box Nation don't have multi-millions and nor does K2 and as Saunders is an unknown entity in the US then HBO won't pay for it. So yes, Sky will pay for Eubank or Brook to fight GGG and Hearn can put it together. Saunders is with the wrong promoter.

        Jacobs is unknown in the UK. Not a huge name in the USA. Quillen/Jacobs was promoted as a battle to see who is king of New York. That worked a bit. At its best GGG/Jacobs might attract same kind of interest as Lemieux/Golovkin. Much better fight mind you but the interest is not there for $4M paydays.
        You should pay more attention to the finances over in the UK - that is what is creating a 4M payday for Brook - nothing else.

        I don't believe a word of that.

        That is just your opinion, and I have heard nothing to support it.

        I do not believe that Brook is a draw, or that he is any more lucrative than Saunders..... people will buy that fight to see Golovkin, not Brook..... just like they would with Saunders.

        And Saunders is a much better, much more marketable fight.

        I think you are drinking the kool-aid on Brook.

        And I don't believe for 1 second that you think that 1.5mil is the best that they could offer Saunders..... you know that is bull****, come on man.

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        • Brook suddenly became this huge global "draw" immediately after Golovkin selected him LMAO..... before that, NOBODY had ever referred to Brook as a lucrative fight, even Eddie Hearn himself stated that he never made a penny off Brook

          Just like Jessie Vargas suddenly became this huge global "draw" immediately after Pacquiao selected him AHAHAHH

          you guys sure do trip out on kool-aid

          FACT: NOBODY has ever viewed Brook as a lucrative opponent, EXCEPT for Golovkin LMAO

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          • comment rightfully deserves a post of it's own.....

            FACT: NOBODY has ever viewed Brook as a lucrative opponent, EXCEPT for Golovkin LMAO

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              FACT: you are dreaming if you think that Saunders will fight lil'G for less than half what Kell Brook, got paid..... regardless as to the reason why.

              That fight will never happen under those conditions man.

              So you can post those cute excuses to the IBHOF. They won't read them of course..... because they don't listen to excuses, they just count names.

              1) I do not believe that the platform will make much difference, punters will either buy that fight, or they won't..... and Saunders/Golovkin is a much better fight than Brook, much easier to market. Can Golovkin draw, or is he relying on Brook ? LMAO

              2) Same thing..... they offered Jacobs "Quillin money"..... so, can Golovkin draw more than Quillin, or what?

              FACT: you are dreaming if you think that 1.5mil for Saunders, and "Quillin money" for Jacobs..... is even close to the best offer they could have made..... so that "we did everything we can" line, is rubbish.

              Brook will be handsomely rewarded because GGG wanted to fight Brook.
              Do you know who pay the bills for the Brook fight , do you know who pays the bills for Jacobs fight? or the BJS fight? 1.5Mil for Saunders is what he should get in the US (max money) , if it goes to the UK let them pay him whatever they want (BJS of course does not have Hearn/Sky money so he wont get the Brook numbers or anything close to it).
              To you GGG is not a star , he is mr 97k who is an unknown fighter , but you want him to bring a UK fighter with 0 exposure in the US for 3Mil ? is that your bussiness plan for GGG team ?
              Whatever , you never made sense , and you continue to do as you always do , which is hate on GGG no matter what.

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              • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                I currently favor half-a-dozen guys at 154 over Brook.
                Lara, J-Rock, the Charlo brothers, Trout, and Andrade. That's six right there

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                • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  Bull**** !

                  You just stated that Golovkin can't draw more than Quillin.

                  If lil'G can't draw flies, why should Jacobs/Saunders care about him..... let alone Canelo.
                  FMD, you're an imbecile

                  Quillin - Jacobs was a financial disaster

                  WTF do you think Jacobs is now on 500k per fight?

                  Hearn is guaranteeing the GGG purse for the Brook fight not K2

                  As I have said before, if you're so desperate to see Saunders in the ring with GGG, then get Warren to do the same as the money is not there for the fight in the US

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                  • Originally posted by bluzi View Post
                    Do you know who pay the bills for the Brook fight , do you know who pays the bills for Jacobs fight? or the BJS fight? 1.5Mil for Saunders is what he should get in the US (max money) , if it goes to the UK let them pay him whatever they want (BJS of course does not have Hearn/Sky money so he wont get the Brook numbers or anything close to it).
                    To you GGG is not a star , he is mr 97k who is an unknown fighter , but you want him to bring a UK fighter with 0 exposure in the US for 3Mil ? is that your bussiness plan for GGG team ?
                    Whatever , you never made sense , and you continue to do as you always do , which is hate on GGG no matter what.

                    FACT: NOBODY has ever viewed Brook as a lucrative opponent, EXCEPT for Golovkin LMAO

                    I have never even heard a welter refer to Brook as a lucrative opponent.


                    Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
                    FMD, you're an imbecile

                    Quillin - Jacobs was a financial disaster

                    WTF do you think Jacobs is now on 500k per fight?

                    Hearn is guaranteeing the GGG purse for the Brook fight not K2

                    As I have said before, if you're so desperate to see Saunders in the ring with GGG, then get Warren to do the same as the money is not there for the fight in the US

                    Hearn is willing to split the money fairly..... because he wants the fight.

                    Can Golovkin draw more than Quillin, or not ?

                    Because if he can, then it won't be a financial disaster, right ?

                    Or is Brook bringing all the money to the table, despite not even being a draw himself?

                    They OBVIOUSLY could have offered Jacobs more than " Quillin money " dude..... stop drinking the kool-aid.

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                    • This is the point that is being conveniently overlooked.....

                      FACT: NOBODY has ever viewed Brook as a lucrative opponent, EXCEPT for Golovkin LMAO




                      This is FAAAAAR worse than Canelo/Khan.

                      At least Khan was a money-fight.




                      Let's put this in perspective here.....

                      This is what Golovkin walked away from when he refused to negotiate with the little red kid on the weight.....

                      Brook (who NOBODY regards as a draw) is insignificant compared to the UK superstar Amir Khan..... now, Amir Khan, is insignificant when compared to the Mexican sensation Canelo.....

                      ..... and yet, Golovkin totally refused to negotiate with Canelo, instead preferring to take a "money-fight" with Brook LMAOOOOOO

                      WTF ?


                      there are levels to this shht..... lil'G needs to stop shopping at walmart if he wants to convince everyone that he is rich LMAO

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